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A lower than p01 coin?

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    OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can’t see a date.

    No date, no grade.

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great eye appeal for a lowball coin, but there isn't enough meat left on it for a grade.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BU. Been used, a lot. The stories that one could tell, from the White House to the cat house.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I once found a Shield Nickel while going through a bag of nickels in 1962-63. It was identifiable only by the visibility of a single star. Everything else was slick. A dip in Nic-A-Date revealed it to be an 1882.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd call it a silver slug.

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    KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet !!! :)

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one. Here's my Basal State Morgan.


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    REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2018 6:05AM

    If there are no features left to determine the date and mint, then there is no grade. A 1796 Quarter is an example where no date is needed and could receive a P01 grade.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,664 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PO-1
    Identifiable as to type, date and mintmark.

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    Date and mintmark of coin must be detectable to be graded.

    But if high tech detection is sufficient not the naked eye, you would think there would be allowances made.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @REALGATOR said:
    If there are no features left to determine the date and mint, then there is no grade. A 1796 Quarter is an example where no date is needed and could receive a P01 grade.

    Another example would be the 1793 chain cent. The date is missing on many lower grade examples but the chain is still very visible on this one year type coin. Other examples that come to mind would be the 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter and the 1916/16 nickel that can be identified even without the date from several die characteristics. The major grading services will slab these coins even without the dates. I'm sure there must be other examples.

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2018 6:38AM

    @PerryHall
    I know this is better than a PO01 but would the 1913 Buffalo [variety 1 ] fall into this category of discernible without the actual date ?

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are some really worn coins....I would think some of these coins were pocket pieces... not at all sure that only commerce would result in this degree of wear. Certainly possible though... Cheers, RickO

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since it's a one year type, I would think that it would be identifiable based on the design and it would be slabbed as long as the mintmark is identifiable.

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