Am I the only one this happens to?
toyz4geo
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Hi all,
Well, I just won another coin for my depleted Registry Type Set (eBay). It was a true auction for which I placed the highest bid I wanted to bid. I usually bid an odd amount, like $86.38. I won with the exact amount for my highest bid. I have notice though, lately, that seems to be the case, right up to my max bid.
Is it possible to have a program as a seller to discover ones highest bid and somehow get to that? It just seems to happen too often with me that my winning bid is exactly my highest bid. Seems strange for an underbidder to bid me up to that threshold, so often.
Yes, I am happy with winning what I bid on and obviously got it for what I was willing to pay. Just, why does it seem to go to my max bid.
Any thoughts or similar experiences?
George
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I never had that happen. Why not find something that is cheap from one of those sellers and overbid just to see what happens. You could always bid at the last second while knowing what most of the previous bid range was. re
I always seem to be the underbidder, getting outbid by <$1.
It might be is there a specific person your buying from that this happen? I bought some yesterday but it was way below my high bid so I know this seller was honest.
Yes...It has happened to me once. An odd amount also. Perhaps if the last bidder does not go over the max/minimum at the end it goes to the highest established bid. Don't know...I'll have to check the ebay rules.
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That has also happened to me, the under bidder's max bid was only two dollars under my max bid.
Did you go back and look at the bidding history for your auction?
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I guess this is the daily "something fishy on eBay" post.
Did you use a sniper?
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No. My first bid was the highest I wanted to go. On this particular auction, there was onl one other bidder, $0.36 below mine. I don’t know if that bid was a snipe.
This too has happened to me more than once lol.
Generally, if there is something I want to buy, I just input the most I want to pay so I am not glued to the computer. It just seems odd to win so many times at my exact max bid. But at least I won, right?
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I think you are just being successful against a sniper.
Bid your highest amount.
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Bidding wars can be VERY expensive.
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I use a sniping program so I don't have to watch an auction to the end, or put in a bid too early to tip my hand.
when I am concerned I look at bid history and see if someone cancelled a high bid determining my max
The underbidder can "discover" your off-increment bid by placing bids at each increment.
Using your example of $86.38:
Lets say your hidden proxy bid is displaying $83.00. Someone can bid 84 and the new bid is 85. They can bid again at 85 and the new bid goes to 86. They bid again at 86 and then your high bid of 86.38 is revealed. The next bid is 87. but it never happens. You are the "winner" at 86.38 and the underbidder was able to discover your top bid.
How many seconds left when you pull the trig?
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Or he can bid the $87 know he's beat your 86.38. That's one reason I always use a sniper . . . You never show your hand. Also with the sniper I can set it & forget it knowing my bid, up to the max, will be executed in the last 2 to 3 seconds. It also works even if your computer is turned off.
I pay $7 a year for the Gixen mirror program (regular Gixen is free). Well worth it to me.
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I have had the same thing happen too.
I also use "ODD" numbers for bidding.
This is what I usually suspect.
In your instance, I would guess the under bidder bid $86 to $86.37
Not quite the same as your story but I bid on about 7 coins this weekend.
I usually go with the manual snipe but decided to bid my max earlier in the weekend and see what happens.
I lost every one by a single bid increment.
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This is entirely true but I am not sure what it proves. The second person is just bidding against the first bidder in one step increments until they become the high bidder (or they stop when they see the off amount). But, the competing bidder is still bidding. If the first bidder did not bid an odd amount then the second bidder will end up winning once they pass the first bidder's high bid.
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i put in a lot of lowball offers on no reserves quite a bit, and win about once a month. otherwise I use buy it now most of the time for bonus e bucks days
Even if the OP bid is 86.00 even, the 2nd bidder discovers it by being the loser in a tie. Unfortunately, I suspect this is mainly employed as a shill.
So, are you saying that the 2nd bidder bids 86, the high bid is 86, but he is not the high bidder? I guess in that case he knows the first bidder's ceiling without surpassing it.
This! The only question is whether the seller had input into the process to qualify as shill bidding.
you might be bidding to early and if others are interested and begin to bid, it will raise your automatically to just over the amount. might want to set a reminder or watch first and then when its down to last few hours put in your highest bid. Then at least you wont get banged every time another is looking at it but not wanting to pay the top amount.
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My sniping program is set at 6 seconds.
Same exact thing happened to me today. Bid me up to EXACTLY my price, and I won. IDK how that happened, but I don't think it was exactly kosher.
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Without seeing the bid history, I can't comment either way. For a shill to effectively get you right to your max each time, the shill would either need to know when to stop (one bid too many and they're the high bidder), or retract after placing that last high bid. Since your max bid will be triggered any time the under bidder places a bid within one increment of your bid, I'd say that's the more likely occurrence.
All that said, the later you bid, the less there is a chance for funny business. The only thing you lose by bidding late (assuming you're firm with your high bid) is that tie goes to the first bidder, so if you match someone else's bid or your bid is no longer an increment above the current high bid, you lose by being the later bidder.
Maybe lower your bid by $5 then.
I can imagine software that would allow a shill bidder to push to the max -1 using an automatic cancelled bid; however, a review of the bid history would make this apparent.
Its not just eBay that this has happened to me. You're better off sniping to circumvent the game players.
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No, you are not the only one.
Read this, it might help
https://www.thebalancesmb.com/how-do-ebay-bid-increments-work-1140154