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Barn finds 1878 7/8 tail feathers and 1881 S

I got a roll of silver dollars, Peace, Morgan, Foreign, sort of a barn find. A true history lesson in a roll. Filed rims, some cleaned (I believe) and some nice coins. Here's a couple I hope are decent. Should I have them graded or just cherish and admire them?



I appears they pictures uploaded out of sequence for some reason. My first try with Plugable USB microscope as well.

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They look pretty, but they're giving me a headache! :)

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • Me too. I'll figure out lighting and focusing before long.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Try to flip image too, everything is backwards like looking in a mirror. Also quick question, location of this barn find? China?

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
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  • OK, found how to flip the photos. Not China ..... that I know of.

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @velociab said:
    OK, found how to flip the photos. Not China ..... that I know of.

    Some things don't look right. The date for one, and the P in PLURIBUS... Just, well, weird.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on buying counterfeit coins. Really, they are modern counterfeits.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • I didn't buy them. They were left to me by the widow of a neighbor. He died 15 years ago. All indications are they were collected in the mid 70's. Counterfeit. I didn't have a clue. What tests can I do? They seem to be silver, at least.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh I thought from the title you found these in a barn. lol

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @velociab said:
    I didn't buy them. They were left to me by the widow of a neighbor. He died 15 years ago. All indications are they were collected in the mid 70's. Counterfeit. I didn't have a clue. What tests can I do? They seem to be silver, at least.

    Call the police and have the widow arrested.

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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:
    Sure look real to me. Nothing offhand screams that they need to be graded.

    Look again at the 1878 - it could hardly scream louder. Look at the numerals in 1878. Note the highly different sizes. No mint product I've seen is that far off. Ergo, not a mint product. Ergo, counterfeit.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1878 is a blatant fake.
    The date is laughable.
    I didn't even look at the other coin.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely not mint products.... Not sure about the rest of the roll.... or whether they are even silver... Cheers, RickO

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "My first try with Plugable USB microscope as well."

    Try reversing the plug - that should take care of the photo problem (except for fuzziness). ;)

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why are you calling them "Barn Finds"?

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post a normal cell phone picture under normal daylight of the 1878.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:

    @BlindedByEgo said:
    Some things don't look right. The date for one, and the P in PLURIBUS... Just, well, weird.

    @TomB said:
    Congratulations on buying counterfeit coins. Really, they are modern counterfeits.

    @Gluggo said:
    Call the police and have the widow arrested.

    @mannie gray said:
    1878 is a blatant fake.
    The date is laughable.
    I didn't even look at the other coin.

    @ricko said:
    Definitely not mint products.... Not sure about the rest of the roll.... or whether they are even silver... Cheers, RickO

    No running away or deleting your posts later when these are shown to be real... Because I'm damn sure they are and I think I know more about Morgans than most of you.

    ...ummm. Well, OK. I wasn't planning on running or deleting. If I am wrong, I am wrong. Based on those images, without examining the coins in hand, they appear counterfeit.
    Did you get up on the wrong side of the couch?

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  • Phone pics of the 78. The rest of the coins minus the Peace dollars. Barn find is my way of saying I wasn't looking for them, they just came to me out of the blue.


  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They look fine to me. The 1878 could be graded, but probably does not need it. I wouldn't send the rest in but still a nice find "out of the blue"!

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @velociab said:
    Phone pics of the 78. The rest of the coins minus the Peace dollars. Barn find is my way of saying I wasn't looking for them, they just came to me out of the blue.


    Thank you for that - they look fine in these photos. The other photo did you (or the coin) no favors. And again, cool serendipity!

    Not sure what got FadeToBlack's coin ego so engaged - of course, most of us could tell in hand what cannot be determined through photos. Based upon the distortion in the photo, I rendered a judgement - worth every dollar it cost the OP. Settle down, ego boy.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2018 12:03PM

    At least you didn't overpay. Take them to your local reputable coin dealer and get his or her opinion. The toning and wear on the coins looks original, but that means little. Even if counterfeits they may still contain some silver and have some value. At least you have a good story to tell.

  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Large tasty servings of CROW are available at the local market for $2.49 a pound.

    They may run out quick, based on the comments here.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2018 12:15PM

    Please turn off your 'phone's "auto-fuzzy" feature. It's a lot easier to help you if the photos are sharp. ;)

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2018 12:14PM

    I'm super cornfused.

    The first 1878 pic has a die crack through the stars on the obv and the newest pic doesn't.
    Are they two different coins or just pic anomalies?

    Edit:
    ........oh, and Welcome!
    Glad you're here and asking questions.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not certain why there appears to be conflict or angst within this thread by certain members (not me). The initial images made the pieces appear to be counterfeit and multiple folks came to the same conclusion, but the later images look wildly different. Perhaps some know more about particular series, grade ranges or attributes than others, but the internet testosterone that might be spilling here is plainly weird, in my opinion. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but no crow is needed for that.

    If the first pieces are counterfeit then that is too bad for the buyer and if they are real then that is great.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • JcldJcld Posts: 449 ✭✭✭

    @sparky64 said:
    I'm super cornfused.

    The first 1878 pic has a die crack through the stars on the obv and the newest pic doesn't.
    Are they two different coins or just pic anomalies?

    Edit:
    ........oh, and Welcome!
    Glad you're here and asking questions.

    I felt the same way the two pictures appear to be two different coins. What happened to the die crack?

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2nd picture of the 78 is not the same coin that was originally posted in this thread. The original coin is a counterfeit and not even close to a good one.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:

    @BlindedByEgo said:
    Some things don't look right. The date for one, and the P in PLURIBUS... Just, well, weird.

    @TomB said:
    Congratulations on buying counterfeit coins. Really, they are modern counterfeits.

    @Gluggo said:
    Call the police and have the widow arrested.

    @mannie gray said:
    1878 is a blatant fake.
    The date is laughable.
    I didn't even look at the other coin.

    @ricko said:
    Definitely not mint products.... Not sure about the rest of the roll.... or whether they are even silver... Cheers, RickO

    No running away or deleting your posts later when these are shown to be real... Because I'm damn sure they are and I think I know more about Morgans than most of you.

    :*:*:*:*:*

  • Same coin, I swear! I only have 2 1878's. The one by itself and the one in the group photo. I could just need a new phone with a better camera and not a brain transplant. Thanks for the welcome .... I'll do more research in the future to avoid unnecessary drama.

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @velociab said:
    Same coin, I swear! I only have 2 1878's. The one by itself and the one in the group photo. I could just need a new phone with a better camera and not a brain transplant. Thanks for the welcome .... I'll do more research in the future to avoid unnecessary drama.

    :)

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