eBay Cancellation Return Refund PayPal Weird Charge

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• Treashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 4:17AM

  very strange.

  Frank
  
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• ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 4:34AM edited May 10, 2018 4:35AM

  Between this, the possible future tax thing, and everything else it's getting really stupid.

  Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

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• jmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 5:25AM edited May 10, 2018 5:27AM

  @Broadstruck said:
  So I had 2 cancellation requests before shipping this year as the buyers didn't read the description before hitting the BIN button. Which I'd rather nip it in the butt early instead of waiting for a return.

  Anyhow while glancing at my PayPal I noticed they refunded the buyer $.30 more than originally paid. I then glance at the other cancellation from 2 months ago and again the refund amount was 30 cents more. I called PayPal who now also seem to have outsourced their customer service department to Asia? So from what I could understand is that this is what happens when you now cancel and refund through eBay and not through PayPal? Although it looks like the buyer is getting the extra it's either eBay or PayPal that's charging 30 cents?

  Not a big deal with only a couple cancellations, however figured I'd mention it as for a major volume seller it could really add up.

  I've added a lot of question marks as I walked away from that conversation not really knowing what exactly happens? As I was told as a one time courtesy for bringing this to PayPal's attention they would credit me my 60 cents back. Nevertheless if you've done a few eBay cancellations you might want to check your PayPal account.

  The buyer got EXACTLY what he or she paid. PayPal got the 30 cents.

  PayPal charges 30 cents + 2.9% {the percent varies by account type}. On a refund or reversal, PayPal will reverse the 2.9% charge but NOT THE 30 CENTS. Don't ask me why, been that way forever. So, PayPal charges you the 30 cents in order to make up the difference on the buyer refund.

  In other words, if the buyer paid you $1. PayPal keeps 33 cents (30 cents +3%) and they give you 67 cents. If you give a refund to the buyer, PayPal takes the 67 cents, kicks back in the 3 cents for 70 cents, but then takes the other 30 cents from you PayPal balance so the buyer (er...non-buyer?) gets a full $1.

  All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

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• amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 6:08AM

  Yeap...the 30 cents is a nonrefundable transaction fee. All merchants have to pay it whether paypal,creditcard,or whatever.

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• MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 6:17AM

  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

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• BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 7:03AM

  @MorganMan94 said:
  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

  Won't that drive your PP balance negative?

  theknowitalltroll;

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• MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 7:17AM

  @BAJJERFAN said:

  @MorganMan94 said:
  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

  Won't that drive your PP balance negative?

  Nope, I have done it a few times and it takes your balance to zero, it does not pull the .30 cents from your bank account either.

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• BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 7:19AM

  @MorganMan94 said:

  @BAJJERFAN said:

  @MorganMan94 said:
  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

  Won't that drive your PP balance negative?

  Nope, I have done it a few times and it takes your balance to zero, it does not pull the .30 cents from your bank account either.

  PP can no longer touch your bank account without your permission.

  theknowitalltroll;

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• MedalCollector Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 9:37AM

  I did not know this. Thank you!

  @Broadstruck said:
  Which I'd rather nip it in the butt early instead of waiting for a return.

  I would suggest you don't nip any more butts from now on....

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• Cougar1978 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 3:20PM

  Interesting

  Cancellations very rare almost non existent for me. How can u block them in future w eBay phone app?

  Investor

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• Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 3:46PM

  @GoldenEgg said:
  I did not know this. Thank you!

  @Broadstruck said:
  Which I'd rather nip it in the butt early instead of waiting for a return.

  I would suggest you don't nip any more butts from now on....

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• davewesen Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 5:43PM

  @MorganMan94 said:
  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

  Now eBay reverses your PAYPAL credit from a sale as soon as the buyer opens a return request - before they even send you the coin. This can easily put your PAYPAL balance in negative.

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• MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 5:53PM

  @davewesen said:

  @MorganMan94 said:
  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

  Now eBay reverses your PAYPAL credit from a sale as soon as the buyer opens a return request - before they even send you the coin. This can easily put your PAYPAL balance in negative.

  If they open a case before messaging you yes, both times I have done it was not an Ebay transaction though.

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• airplanenut Posts: 22,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 6:29PM

  @davewesen said:

  @MorganMan94 said:
  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

  Now eBay reverses your PAYPAL credit from a sale as soon as the buyer opens a return request - before they even send you the coin. This can easily put your PAYPAL balance in negative.

  It's semantics, but they put the funds on hold, rather than reverse anything. From your perspective it doesn't matter, but this shouldn't be confused with the buyer getting their money back before the case is decided.

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• jmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 6:32PM

  @davewesen said:

  @MorganMan94 said:
  There is one way around it if you know you are going to refund someone. Transfer your balance to your bank account except for the exact amount you received on the sale, after that refund them.

  Now eBay reverses your PAYPAL credit from a sale as soon as the buyer opens a return request - before they even send you the coin. This can easily put your PAYPAL balance in negative.

  This is not true. You may have your account set up to auto refund. You can set it up so not even the return request is automatically accepted.

  My account is set up to automatically accept returns. I have NEVER been charged automatically for a return. In fact, I have to manually authorize the refund after the coin arrives, even though eBay knows the coin arrived.

  All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

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• mustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

  May 10, 2018 6:36PM

  This whole discussion started over 30 cents, right?

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