Please be patient , I'm learning .... Do is this a DD?
SeanB
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Is there a known DD for that year/mm? (I could be wrong but as far as I know there is not).
I think you are approaching your searches backward. Instead of looking at every single coin to see if it is doubled, learn which years have known DDs and get photos of what they look like, then search for coins of those dates and compare. A DD is not a random occurrence that can pop up on just any old coin.
I understand. And no there are no CONFIRMED DDs for that year. But that coin really stuck out to me and if I compare it to doubling, it looks similar.theres nothing to compare it to.... But new things are always being found . But you don't see any doubling ? I see it majorly like , even with out a magnifier , I see lines behind both 9s tails and all throughout the coin . Not as drastic as the '55 DD but a little similar . It's dramatic in the liberty and the date .... But maybe I'm nuts lol
Can you get a closeup of the date as to where it doesn't wash out and get granular? It's probably just mechanical doubling in a severe form, but it almost looks like the first 9 has some hub doubling. Perhaps loose, vibrating die.
And don't worry about variety attributions. I've got a box of "some day.." coins with say, one notch on a large letter or small notching on some small letters, coins with no errors but the pickup points preceding the error, just small stuff that's not cataloged that's still pretty cool to look at!
So if you are finding new things, aren't they different varieties? I wish I had a better camera. I'm getting the USB microscope shortly and it has a camera. So I will be posting that for sure with this one. But I will try the date again ... And see what comes out but every time I take a pic the visual changes from what I see to what the camera picked up. And it's by a lot. It's just a cheap phone camera...
I don't think Lincoln wore that size...Maybe Mary Todd?
This kicked off the D but... IDK I wish I had someone who can see it in person it's completely different .
I see the effect with the 9s as well, but it appears to me as a ghost effect, not two impressions into the die, which I believe would be closer in height/relief.
No this is a DDO.
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Here is the best I can get . I changed a setting .
Okay well... When I get my USB camera scope I'll retake it ... Thanks guys. I'm new but this has some type of doubling. That's all that I know... Just don't know which. Thanks guys
When you look at the 9s do you honestly not see that it is more similar to the machine doubling illustration? To me it looks like MD or an eroded die.
No.
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DDOs (and all varieties, really) are important because hundred or thousands of precisely identical coins were produced by a single, affected die (or perhaps in some cases possibly a group of dies depending at what stage the doubling happened). The more spectacular ones like the 1955 or 72 Lincoln are often quite impressive.
Machine doubling is something that happens to a single coin as a result of “funny bouncing” during the striking process. It can be seen in large numbers of coins, but the direction and magnitude of the apparent doubling will not be identical from coin to coin.
Finally, for every 1000 “Is this a DDO?” threads, only maybe 2 introduce a significant new variety.
If you read them it will explain this in great detail even has photo examples.
Just Look for my logo should be a couple pages back and read the two articles if you are able to.
What kind of microscope?
I don't know if they'd be considered varieties. My grandfather put away a luster bomb 1939 merc and in the flip was a small question mark. Now it's a DDO. It's, of course, less severe than a whole front of a coin.
The other day I found a 46-D quarter SDO-002 which I stumbled on mistake. I don't know how many examples to exist to be an attributed variety.
Nickels with a few reverse touch-up DDR, late 30s early 40s, no listed variety but it's there. The SDO-002 I found also has a bar over the middle of the 4, too, and most other examples don't.
When they become scarce enough and people find out they exist they get recognition. If my coin was an 1818 bust half in 65 it would be some vamlike obverse / SDO-002. Likewise the nickels if they had the last 3 of Monticello, some ddo, others must've been minted too. Or even early 1950s cents were was always something different going on with that coinage up to and including the early 60s.
I like keeping these kinds of things. Especially the ones that are near perfect except that one thing. You never know I guess. Fat bottom 5, shifted 8, tilted 1 who knows.
One thing I never liked is these partial ddo touch up coins or products of engraving etc is the consistency in finding more like them gets smaller as time goes on, or silver and gold get melted..
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Sean ** we are telling you what it is why **cannot you accept what they have said . Why do you post and still wonder what you have after others with more knowledge have told you **repeatedly. ** what you have?
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Send it to PCGS and have it authenticated and you can show us a thing or two about DD.
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It is not a DDO.... However, if you are so strongly convinced of your opinion, send it in to our hosts for authentication. Yes, it will cost you shipping and grading, but you will then have a final determination since you do not accept the expert input you are receiving here. Cheers, RickO
Interesting.
If you have to ask, it is not. Real dd's are mostly pretty obvious unless the coin is so worn that it does not matter anyway.
Looks like machine doubling at best. Not worth anything. But keep looking.
Hmm.... That would be a new look for me to take. But okay. I will look at it not trying to argue with anyone. Apologies vto any that felt that way. You guys know. I just am barely learning. Thanks all.
That second to last sentence is tempting.
Smitten with DBLCs.
This is not a DDO. The 'doubling' is caused by the copper plating being separated from the zinc core and pushed up around the numbers. Very common on copper-plated zinc Lincoln cents.
Just a heads up the 1989s do this a lot too, if it saves you a few threads.
The copper plating has 'split'
from the digits, from striking
pressure.
A VERY common occurrence
on our copper-plated zinc cents.