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How will error collectors describe off-center positions when people can only read digital clocks?

RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

Hmmmm ?

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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Compass headings?

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2018 3:34PM

    The classic clock face will always be around on peoples wall as moving art.

    My wife has 4 or 5 clocks all electric but none digital on the wall.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @drwstr123 said:
    Compass headings?

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :D

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    JBKJBK Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Left, right, up, down.

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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my old house that was built in 1933 there were still a couple of hard wired rotary dial wall phones that my kids absolutely had no idea how to use. The nice thing with those is that when the power went out they kept on working.

    I'm not sure if they even teach kids in the USA how to read dial clocks now.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2018 5:10PM

    @Cameonut said:
    I just saw a piece on carp main stream media where kids could not read the cursive writing of their grandparents when they get birthday cards etc. . It was all about becoming a pen pal and that schools were not teaching cursive writing anymore.

    My how this country has gone downhill in 50 years. We had better volunteer to "decode" RogerB's mint records before us "old timers that don't know anything" die off.

    It the last 50 years the internet, personal computers, GPS, MRI’s, robotics, electric cars etc have been invented. With progress some things fall by the wayside. With all the other challenges we have in America cursive writing ain’t one of them. Reading dial clocks ain’t one of them. All in all this is still a great place to be.

    I’m positive that when fountain pens were replaced with ball point pens people were bitching and moaning

    mark

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    Rich49Rich49 Posts: 190 ✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2018 5:34PM

    They don't teach cursive writing anymore in school so they can't sign a legal document with a distictive sig only print. "Make your mark here "Look at Steve Mnuchin sig on the new currency http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/mnuchin-signature-1-bills-registers-odd-bronx-pol-article-1.3637521. Can't read an Anolog clock dial? Sheeesh !

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So it seems the guy whose name begins with K that escapes me at the moment was prescient in predicting the downfall of the clock face when he effective named it after himself so that there'd always be a way to describe it without ever knowing about an actual clock face.

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    scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭✭✭

    People still use "horse power". I think we'll be ok with the clock thing.

    As for cursive, it's obsolete technology. Good riddance. Even as a student in school, it was obvious that learning cursive was a waste of time.
    "Here's a way to write. "
    "Got it?, Ok here's a curly way to write"
    "Why? Well, it's faster...ok not really, but if you don't learn it, message board people will grouse"

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    air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭

    Aviators and ATC always use and always will use the face of a clock to describe traffic.......Same with ACMX using the face of the clock to describe the engine. I don’t ever see that going away either. If the face of the clock was never invented how would they describe these actions and accounts?

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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    So it seems the guy whose name begins with K that escapes me at the moment was prescient in predicting the downfall of the clock face when he effective named it after himself so that there'd always be a way to describe it without ever knowing about an actual clock face.

    Kolit

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember the hue and cry when fountain pens replaced the quill.... "What will become of all these feathers?" And when calculators replaced the slide rule... "What will you do when your battery dies?".... Yeah.. well time (digitally) marches on..... :D;) Cheers, RickO

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:

    @messydesk said:
    So it seems the guy whose name begins with K that escapes me at the moment was prescient in predicting the downfall of the clock face when he effective named it after himself so that there'd always be a way to describe it without ever knowing about an actual clock face.

    Kolit

    Right. Thank you.

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    StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Left, right, up, down.

    LOL, Knowing my kids, it will all relate to a video game controller. R1, R2, Z, Square, Triangle, etc.

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My 3rd year medical student son struggles with clock faces that aren’t digital. I enjoy asking him what time it is when his cell phone is not nearby and he then has to look at a regular wall clock at my home to answer the question. It is amusing!

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    NewEnglandNotesNewEnglandNotes Posts: 261 ✭✭✭

    Try to find someone under the age of 30 who knows how to read a map.

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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    So it seems the guy whose name begins with K that escapes me at the moment was prescient in predicting the downfall of the clock face when he effective named it after himself so that there'd always be a way to describe it without ever knowing about an actual clock face.

    The name that escapes you is KOLIT, and his numbers describing positions on a clock face are Kolit numbers.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Five someone under 30 a Thomas Guide map book of a city and ask him or her to find 3028 West Lunada Lane.

    If he or she says there is no need to do so because the location of the property in question can be found his a smart phone or other electronic device, ask what would he or she do if they had no access to any electronic device, or the grid goes down.

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 6, 2018 10:26AM

    I am sure the hieroglyphics from some 4000 year old Mesopotamian sun-dial hold an answer to this quandary that a contemporaneous yak herder in Mongolia would understand as easily as we "moderns" do now. >:) .

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 6, 2018 10:30AM

    "#top-left-mid #pvc #acetone #don't-wipe #pat-dry"

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    Rich49Rich49 Posts: 190 ✭✭✭

    Red Leader to Fighter Pilot Bandits @ 2 O'Clock ! Huh ?

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "...always use and always will use..."

    Prior to about 1825 the U.S. Mint "...always used and always will use..." fractions. oops---then decimals took over. :)

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 6, 2018 11:20AM

    RE: "Kolit numbers."

    If a Kolit number is missing is it called "Kolit interrupt it?" ;)

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    OnTheHuntOnTheHunt Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    My last physical exam I had to draw the hands on a clock corresponding to a certain time. It's so seldom I look at analog time any longer that I had to cheat and look at the clock on the wall to recall how.

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's easy...
    Mickey's hand is over his head.
    Mickey's hand is to the right and above his shoulders
    .. to the right, shoulder height
    ... to the right by his knees

    etc.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the future there will be NO ERROR's..............NONE ;)

    Steve

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    giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭✭

    Your right the mint is now serious about stopping their release .

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    northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How will error collectors describe off-center positions when people can only read digital clocks?

    Great question.

    A friend was recently showing me his newly acquired previously owned Mercedes Benz SEL of recent manufacture. When i glanced inside it I noticed it had an analog clock which brought to mind a prior visit a decade or so ago to the Mercedes factory in Stuttgart (Sindlelfingen to be more precise), Germany. Mercedes had just introduced its newest version of the SEL and one of its unique features was the inclusion of an analog clock. At the time only a few luxury cars had one including Rolls Royce and Mercedes' own ultra luxury line, Maybach.

    What I didn't know, until my friend informed me, was that to set the analog clock it is all done digitally and the hands simply comply with the digital commands when all the settings are complete and one presses the final input.

    So I guess there is hope that clocks with hour hands may yet survive in this digital world of ours, even if they are in reality digital clocks. Actually for those of you with Apple watches, don't you have an option of having your digital time piece display hour and minute hands on a digital screen?

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    mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    grumpalumpagous : a grouchy, discontented, ill tempered person, particularly someone who chooses to be unhappy

    Things that don't work well go obsolete. Cursive Writing was spawned 12 levels down in Hell. Nothing like being left handed with a fountain pen and trying to learn all those curves backwards and smearing ink, with the left little finger and edge of the palm continuously blue and black.

    Our clocks are a classic case of stupid. How many people have been seriously inconvenienced, left behind, even died because we have 2 times per day, (3 o'clock) What the heck is AM and PM (Quick, there is a test, don't cheat and look it up, full correct latin names) What the heck is O'Clock mean? At least the military and Europe uses 1700 hours, etc. to solve that problem.

    There was a digital time system proposed, but people are too stupid to learn it, that had 10 hours per day, 100 minutes per hour, and 100 seconds per minute. In this system, a decimal second is almost exactly the same as the current knuckle dragging system second.

    HOw many seconds have elapsed between 2:41 and 1:18 ? Most people do not do well counting in a 60 number system. Oh, which is AM and which is PM or both?

    Scrap the whole ounces grains pounds miles etc. system for metric. The cost to the United States is staggering of not converting.

    To the map people with your Rand McNally's, trying to follow a map riding a Motorcycle. How about using a map at night in the pouring rain? In the Army, I was an Airborne Ranger, and without boasting, I was one of the best with maps, dead reckoning, navigation by sun and stars, etc. I led patrols downrange into bad guy country, and I cannot even guess how many Americans died because they got lost (could not accurately read the map, lost the map, etc.) and plowed into mine fields, wound up where the artillery had targeted, etc. ). Sadly, one of the ambushes I set up was executed on friendlies who were lost and wandered into the kill zone at night. It took too long to determine that there were no AK-47 sounds, just M16's, M60's etc. going off, to get a cease fire.

    Mars Probe Lost Due to Simple Math Error. NASA lost its $125-million Mars Climate Orbiter because spacecraft engineers failed to convert from English to metric measurements when exchanging vital data before the craft was launched, space agency officials said Thursday. ... In a sense, the spacecraft was lost in translation.

    I will take digital clocks, GPS, metric system, etc. any day.

    Americans with the English Money:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aMnxQjDGDU

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    JBKJBK Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That qualifies as a "rant".

    Maybe sometimes correct, always though-provoking, but a rant nonetheless. ;)

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    northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    That qualifies as a "rant".

    Maybe sometimes correct, always though-provoking, but a rant nonetheless. ;)

    Educational none the less. On point I recall having set the DVR to record the season opening episode of Hawaii Five-0 two years ago only to return home to watch it finding that I had set the DVR for 8 AM, not 8PM.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most of the world (and our government) use a 24-hr clock and metric.

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I read an article recently about how in England the schools are going to use digital clocks because the kiddies figure out how to read a regular clock.

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    North, North half pass, East, East half pass, South, South half pass, West, West half pass done.



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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    North, North half pass, East, East half pass, South, South half pass, West, West half pass done.

    What about the southern hemisphere....? Roos got coins, too.

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