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Another Ultra Chopmarked Dollar in the Set... 1873-S PCGS AU58

airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

What started as a single, cheap coin purchased some 15 years ago has turned into a hunt to put together a date set. These don't come up often, and the ones that do are often overpriced and more common dates. This one showed up on Heritage a few weeks ago, and I made it mine. I now have 10 of the 18 dates for the series, with this being the highest grade of them all. Under the chopmarks, it's a nice, lustrous coin with light golden surfaces.


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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've always liked the chopmarked Trades. One can only imagine the travels of that one.

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    1TwoBits1TwoBits Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭

    Holy chop marks, Batman!

    Nice!

    1TwoBits

    Searching for bust quarters.....counterstamps, errors, and AU-MS varieties, please let me know if you can help.
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations !!! :)

    Timbuk3
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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2018 8:07PM

    How the hell can that be graded?

    Except for the hundred brutal impacts, it looks to be very lightly circulated. Really?

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think someone was mad at that Trade dollar! Yikes!
    Pete

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a very cool looking piece. It even appears to have retained some luster!

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    That's a very cool looking piece. It even appears to have retained some luster!

    Plenty, in fact! In the untouched parts of the coin, it's as lustrous as you'd expect for an AU58.

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    rln_14rln_14 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭

    Lots of history there, I like it thanks rln

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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2018 5:41AM

    Quite often you'll find these with the chops on one side only, leaving the other side totally rough (see below). The nice thing about yours is you can see chopmarks on both sides, somewhat obscuring the rough patches with reciprocal damage. I also like how the chops are mostly grouped together, and that's a really big test cut on the obverse. Nice coin.

    Here's the Mexican version...I'm glad that these cost much less than the U.S. counterpart! I really enjoy them, hoping they don't shoot up in price like the trade dollars have.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow... that is a lot of chops.... I often wonder what happened to the chop tools that made these marks. Never seen them for sale.... Cheers, RickO

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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Wow... that is a lot of chops.... I often wonder what happened to the chop tools that made these marks. Never seen them for sale.... Cheers, RickO

    Good question.

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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Wow... that is a lot of chops.... I often wonder what happened to the chop tools that made these marks. Never seen them for sale.... Cheers, RickO

    My understanding is that we've only seen a drawing of what the tools looked like, no one has an actual punch (not even any museums). Possibly they were all melted, but you'd think a few would have survived melting since there must have been hundreds if not thousands of these tools. It's certainly puzzling.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find it very strange..... such tools were in common use for many years. To think that none survived is just not credible. I will have to think of a way to initiate a focused search for these items...Hmmmm... yep, already a plan is forming in my devious intellect. ;) Cheers, RickO

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    DDRDDR Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool, Jeremy!

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    DDRDDR Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And I have often asked the same question Ricko has. The answer may be that no one has ever really looked that hard.

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    bkzoopapabkzoopapa Posts: 178 ✭✭✭

    I am sure the Chinese would make one for you. Any particular chop you would like?

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,833 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Wow... that is a lot of chops.... I often wonder what happened to the chop tools that made these marks. Never seen them for sale.... Cheers, RickO

    I assume that if the originals hadn't simply disappeared from attrition and non-use once foreign silver coins were demonetized in the 1930s, and survived being used as scrap metal during the war with Japan before and during WWII proper, they were banned, confiscated, destroyed after the revolution in 1949 in Communist China, when a merchant certifying the value of something with a stamp would have probably earned him an all-expense-paid trip to "camp."

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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,918 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin Jeremy, I like Chopmarked Trade $'s as well. I have had several very nice one in the past.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @saltlydog4 said:
    I liked that coin, too! nice one. Out of curiosity, do you have a PCGS registry for the set?

    Nope. Most of the coins are raw. Off the top of my head, I think this is the second graded piece I have.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve gotta say, Jeremy, I have never seen so many chop marks on any single coin like that in my entire like, and I’m old!
    VERY cool too!! B)

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve gotta say, Jeremy, I have never seen so many chop marks on any single coin like that in my entire like, and I’m old!
    VERY cool too!! B)

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,833 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's one that crossed my desk back in 2000. At least that's the date on the file. Shot with film several years before I got a digital camera.

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    TLeverageTLeverage Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Glad these are becoming more appreciated, but also not glad, because my set is far from finished.

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