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Will It CAC?! The game! Maybe win a prize. Results in first post.

panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 20, 2018 2:54PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Up to be won is a 1938 D MS 66 FB Mercury dime that is blast white and CAC. PCGS#1450979. Guide value of $100 or so. I will post a picture in the near future.

How do you win? Guess which coins in my next CAC submission CAC and at what level. Here are the rules:

  1. You must guess on every coin.
  2. Your guess for each coin must be 'No' or 'Green' or 'Gold'
  3. If you guess wrong, you get no points on that coin. If you guess No correctly, you get one point. If you guess Green correctly you get 1 point. If you guess Gold correctly you get 2.5 points.
  4. Guessing Green on a coin that gets a Gold gets you no points.
  5. You can enter only once.
  6. In the case of a tie, the forumite who entered first wins.
  7. Guesses must be numbered as the coins listed in this post.
  8. This is supposed to be fun. Please refrain from any 'CAC is bad' 'why send in coins of that value for a sticker' 'who cares?'etc comments. If you can't just have fun, please let others.
  9. I mail these out to CAC via Registered mail Monday. You can enter until I get the email saying the package is at CAC. I will advise when this happens and the entries are closed at that point.
  10. If you think I entered a cert number in error ( I probably did) PM me and I will see if I can correct it.

Here are the coins. There are 39:

  1. 135054-021=green
  2. 128794-001=gold
  3. 1095634=green
  4. 1083014=green
  5. 121288-012=green
  6. 213209-022=gold
  7. 134769-002=gold
  8. 503079-034=green
  9. 9009690=green
  10. 1235018=green
  11. 10915900=green
  12. 1235103=green
  13. 1235115=gold
  14. 6244853=green
  15. 1235123=gold
  16. 1247951=no
  17. 1217407=green
  18. 2011897=no
  19. 2076826=no
  20. 1217407=green
  21. 3120198=green
  22. 207408-010=green
  23. 240790-004=green
  24. 206610-018=green
  25. 166649-007=green
  26. 127644-031=green
  27. 157174-017=green
  28. 155145-011=no
  29. 6129833=no
  30. 3033658=no
  31. 167345-013=no
  32. 123076-015=green
  33. 8183742=green
  34. 125784-007=green
  35. 7339213=green
  36. 1461876=green
  37. 9399142=gold
  38. 3386120=green
  39. 203992-015=gold

I just ran the number through the CAC website, so I won't make it official until I actually get the invoice back to double check the numbers. Though I sold my Merc collection about a month ago, I am still working on a Gold CAC short set of rattlers and fatty holders and made some with this submission. Two white label NGC's stickered. Two Doilies stickered. I submitted three gold coins. The 1894 $10 MS 64 got a green sticker and the 1906 D $10 in AU58 and the 1893 $10 in AU58 both received gold stickers. Once I have the invoice, I will contact the winner and make arrangements to send the prize. Thanks to those who participated.

Comments

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I may have missed it, but would you like the guesses via PM or publicly within the thread? Sounds like a cool game!

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    I may have missed it, but would you like the guesses via PM or publicly within the thread? Sounds like a cool game!

    Guesses need to be made via post so everyone can verify the results. Thanks for catching that! Let me know if there are any more questions. Here is the prize.

  • JasonGamingJasonGaming Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭
    1. Green
    2. No
    3. Green
    4. Green
    5. No
    6. No
    7. No
    8. Green
    9. No
    10. Green
    11. No
    12. Green
    13. No
    14. Green
    15. No
    16. No
    17. Green
    18. Green
    19. Green
    20. No
    21. Green
    22. No
    23. Green
    24. No
    25. No
    26. No
    27. Green
    28. No
    29. Gold
    30. Green
    31. No
    32. No
    33. No
    34. Green
    35. No
    36. No
    37. No
    38. Green
    39. No
      (Sorry for the wall of text & thanks for the competition!)

    Always buying nice toned coins! Searching for a low grade 1873 Arrows DDO Dime and 1842-O Small Date Quarter.

  • scooter25scooter25 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭✭
    1. No
    2. Green
    3. Green
    4. No
    5. Gold
    6. No
    7. Green
    8. Green
    9. Gold
    10. Gold
    11. No
    12. Green
    13. Green
    14. Green
    15. Gold
    16. No
    17. No
    18. Green
    19. Gold
    20. Green
    21. Gold
    22. Gold
    23. No
    24. No
    25. Gold
    26. Green
    27. Green
    28. Green
    29. Green
    30. No
    31. Gold
    32. Green
    33. Gold
    34. No
    35. No
    36. Green
    37. Green
    38. Green
    39. Gold
      Thanks for the chance!!
  • TheDukeKTheDukeK Posts: 359 ✭✭✭

    1 no
    2 no
    3 no
    4 green
    5 no
    6 no
    7 no
    8 green
    9 no
    10green
    11no
    12green
    13no
    14no
    15no
    16no
    17no
    18green
    19green
    20no
    21no
    22green
    23no
    24no
    25no
    26green
    27no
    28no
    29green
    30no
    31no
    32no
    33no
    34no
    35no
    36green
    37no
    38no
    39green

    Thanks

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How do we provide meaningful guesses without photos?

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    How do we provide meaningful guesses without photos?

    As stated, you can be un-motivated and make wild-a$$ guesses, or you can increase your odds and investigate. I think it will be a few days before I have time to make my guesses.

    Cool prize and interesting challenge!

  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    How do we provide meaningful guesses without photos?

    With the correct sleuthing, it would be possible to see images of almost every one of these coins. I just did three simple deductive searches and found an image of #38 with no more info than the cert# and an educated guess as it was the only coin of that grade to come up in the search. If a photo cannot be found, what does the cert# tell you?

    I don't want to say too much, because it is a thinking game too, but I think that by using all the resources about me, CAC, NGC, PCGS and selling venues available at your finger tips, you can significantly increase the information on which you make your guesses. I tried to make the prize worth spending a little time trying to win. But the winner may have just guessed based on no info. It will be interesting to ask the winner what he/she did to support their entry.

    Package goes out tomorrow ( I had to get it all taped up yesterday ) and it will go registered. It takes about 7 days to get to NY so I imagine I will get a notification about Tuesday of next week so that it has arrived so participants have until them to do their best Carl Kolchak or Nancy Drew.....maybe the game won't work and folks won't be interested but I wanted to give it a try anyway. We will have a winner one way or another.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll play the average, none of them will get a CAC green bean. B)

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 green
    2 no
    3 no
    4 no
    5 no
    6 no
    7 green
    8 no
    9 no
    10 no

    11 no
    12 no
    13 no
    14 green
    15 no
    16 no
    17 no
    18 no
    19 no
    20 no
    21 green
    22 no
    23 no
    24 no
    25 no
    26 green
    27 no
    28 no
    29 no
    30 gold

    31 no
    32 no
    33 no
    34 no
    35 green
    36 no
    37 no
    38 gold
    39 no

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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 9, 2018 2:33PM

    This is pretty cool and fun. No time to do it due diligence, but I think that the number of gold stickers is going to be higher than people think....

    siliconvalleycoins.com

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2018 3:09PM

    I hope you get more than the average of around 40%.

  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC has received the package so you have until midnight tonight Pacific time to enter.

  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow only 4 guesses so far. My problem is that the bruins are coming on in 10 min. Maybe I can pull something out of my butt during intermissions

  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Might as well.
    1. no
    2. no
    3. no
    4. no
    5. no
    6. no
    7. n
    8. green
    9. no
    10. no
    11. no
    12. no
    13. no
    14. no
    15. no
    16. green
    17. no
    18. no
    19. no
    20. no
    21. no
    22. no
    23. no
    24. green
    25. no
    26. no
    27. no
    28. no
    29. no
    30. no
    31. no
    32. no
    33. no
    34. no
    35. no
    36. no
    37. no
    38. green
    39. no

  • Weather11amWeather11am Posts: 2,061 ✭✭✭

    I will guess green for all of them (ie, 1-39 green).

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 No
    2 No
    3 No
    4 Green
    5 No
    6 Green
    7 No
    8 Gold
    9 Green
    10 No

    11 No
    12 Green
    13 Green
    14 Green
    15 No
    16 No
    17 Green
    18 Green
    19 No
    20 Green

    21 No
    22 No
    23 Gold
    24 No
    25 Green
    26 Green
    27 No
    28 Green
    29 No
    30 No

    31 Green
    32 Gold
    33 No
    34 No
    35 Green
    36 Green
    37 Green
    38 No
    39 Green

    Thanks and hope things worked favorably for you.

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not that I think none won't bean, but 1 pt. for bean, 1 pt. for correct no. On average 40% bean, <<<<1% get gold, the best odds are saying no to all of them. I hope you get an 80% success rate and ruin my odds.

    Best, SH

    1. no
      1. no
      2. no
      3. no
      4. no
      5. no
      6. no
      7. no
      8. no
      9. no
      10. no
      11. no
      12. no
      13. no
      14. no
      15. no
      16. no
      17. no
      18. no
      19. no
      20. no
      21. no
      22. no
      23. no
      24. no
      25. no
      26. no
      27. no
      28. no
      29. no
      30. no
      31. no
      32. no
      33. no
      34. no
      35. no
      36. no
      37. no
      38. no
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  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where's the fun in trying if you're just gonna hack the contest? I considered doing the same since it's basically a guaranteed win but that's not very fun.

    Enjoy your free coin.

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2018 8:40PM
    1. No
    2. No
    3. No
    4. No
    5. Green
    6. No
    7. No
    8. No
    9. Green
    10. No
    11. No
    12. No
    13. Green
    14. No
    15. No
    16. No
    17. No
    18. Green
    19. No
    20. Green
    21. No
    22. No
    23. No
    24. Green
    25. No
    26. No
    27. No
    28. No
    29. Green
    30. No
    31. No
    32. No
    33. Gold
    34. No
    35. Green
    36. Green
    37. No
    38. No
    39. No

    Thanks for the contest.

    Donato

    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

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  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2018 8:03AM

    Good luck to the participants!

  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Results have been added to first post in thread. I will determine the winner when I receive the official invoice from CAC. Thanks!

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I missed it. I never got back to play. Congrats on the results, looks like you chose wisely!

  • Yacorie1Yacorie1 Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    Agree with batman23, you chose some good coins to submit. Congratulations.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More gold stickers than No stickers....way to go!

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on the excellent results!

  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh wow. You are truly a CAC guru.

  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too much home work for me, but I'll be watching the poster with this much time to play, good luck!!


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  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was the difference of one point, but @scooter25 is the winner with 17 points. He was able to correctly pick two of the coins that went gold. PM me your mailing info and I will send out the prize. Congratulations!

    Coin 4 on the second invoice was not included in the contest. After packing the coins to ship, I thought I had double listed one coin so I deleted it from the list. Turns out I had not. It was not counted towards anything in the game. I am hoping that at least a couple of the Walkers come back with red PVC stickers. They looked pretty good, but I have missed pvc on Walkers sent to CAC in the past.

  • scooter25scooter25 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭✭

    Awesome!!! Great coins!! Thanks for the chance!!

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent results; probably the gold stickers increased the value quite a bit, especially on the $10 gold coins, etc..

  • panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Excellent results; probably the gold stickers increased the value quite a bit, especially on the $10 gold coins, etc..

    I think the spread on two gold coins that got gold stickers is pretty slim. Maybe $50 increase? I was happy though because I have been studying my past submissions to learn more about what unmessed with gold is supposed to look like and these three coins were my first effort after I had done my homework.

  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent results!

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @panexpoguy said:

    @logger7 said:
    Excellent results; probably the gold stickers increased the value quite a bit, especially on the $10 gold coins, etc..

    I think the spread on two gold coins that got gold stickers is pretty slim. Maybe $50 increase? I was happy though because I have been studying my past submissions to learn more about what unmessed with gold is supposed to look like and these three coins were my first effort after I had done my homework.

    That may be technically true, but with the cac gold sticker saying that the AU58 coins are actually Uncs., probably MS62 or so, they are worth stronger money than the technical numbers. Serious collectors want fully Unc. coins that are original and meet the strict standards.

    It also raises questions as to why the graders thought the coins were not Unc. or of significantly lower grades when they went through? Though grading may be an art not a science, there are objective standards that the top graders agree on.

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