@specialist said:
Delloy was not the buyer but he was in a shoot out
I was privileged to represent Mr. Hansen in the auction and indeed, we lost the coin in a shootout. Congratulations to the winner!
It goes to show you, when you're collecting a wide variety of coins, there's a limit to what you value any coin, no matter the rarity and the need to fill the hole. It's a fascinating rarity and we were certainly disappointed!
Looks like I'm going to be tasked with sorting through 1958 Lincoln Cent bags for the next few months...
John Brush President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com email: John@davidlawrence.com 2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
I'd just like to give credit to our own MrEureka who correctly predicted the 280K hammer price during dinner at Barcocina as 5 of us watched the auction on the S-B app.
@specialist said:
hey Blay, maybe it was Andy who made the comments
I just spoke with Andy and he said that Pete did quite well on the 55 DDO and 58 DDO but lost on the 69-S DDO. That is the only comment he said he made to one person in the room. So he denies being the “copper dealer” that was previously mentioned making negative comments. Maybe it was another “copper dealer” who made them.
@specialist said:
hey Blay, maybe it was Andy who made the comments
I just spoke with Andy and he said that Pete did quite well on the 55 DDO and 58 DDO but lost on the 69-S DDO. That is the only comment he said he made to one person in the room. So he denies being the “copper dealer” that was previously mentioned making negative comments. Maybe it was another “copper dealer” who made them.
Who could possiblely be negative with the auction results? I think they are very positive for the market. Sounds like typical armchair comments from people who aren’t here.
@specialist said:
Delloy was not the buyer but he was in a shoot out
I was privileged to represent Mr. Hansen in the auction and indeed, we lost the coin in a shootout. Congratulations to the winner!
It goes to show you, when you're collecting a wide variety of coins, there's a limit to what you value any coin, no matter the rarity and the need to fill the hole. It's a fascinating rarity and we were certainly disappointed!
Looks like I'm going to be tasked with sorting through 1958 Lincoln Cent bags for the next few months...
What’s he gonna do when the owner of the 70-S half dime demands $10M....and it’s the last coin left to buy for the set?
@specialist said:
Delloy was not the buyer but he was in a shoot out
I was privileged to represent Mr. Hansen in the auction and indeed, we lost the coin in a shootout. Congratulations to the winner!
It goes to show you, when you're collecting a wide variety of coins, there's a limit to what you value any coin, no matter the rarity and the need to fill the hole. It's a fascinating rarity and we were certainly disappointed!
Looks like I'm going to be tasked with sorting through 1958 Lincoln Cent bags for the next few months...
What’s he gonna do when the owner of the 70-S half dime demands $10M....and it’s the last coin left to buy for the set?
@specialist said:
Delloy was not the buyer but he was in a shoot out
I was privileged to represent Mr. Hansen in the auction and indeed, we lost the coin in a shootout. Congratulations to the winner!
It goes to show you, when you're collecting a wide variety of coins, there's a limit to what you value any coin, no matter the rarity and the need to fill the hole. It's a fascinating rarity and we were certainly disappointed!
Looks like I'm going to be tasked with sorting through 1958 Lincoln Cent bags for the next few months...
DeLoy and I have mutual friends. One of them is about as wealthy as DeLoy and involved in coins. He has told me that DL is building a museum to showcase all of his coins when his goal is complete. All of the proceeds will be donated to various foundations. So, for the length he is going to complete his goal, my question would be... why not buy it at any cost? There are only three in existence. If the buyer is smart, he won't sell it.
@specialist said:
Delloy was not the buyer but he was in a shoot out
I was privileged to represent Mr. Hansen in the auction and indeed, we lost the coin in a shootout. Congratulations to the winner!
It goes to show you, when you're collecting a wide variety of coins, there's a limit to what you value any coin, no matter the rarity and the need to fill the hole. It's a fascinating rarity and we were certainly disappointed!
Looks like I'm going to be tasked with sorting through 1958 Lincoln Cent bags for the next few months...
What’s he gonna do when the owner of the 70-S half dime demands $10M....and it’s the last coin left to buy for the set?
He'll buy it. I feel like if it's the last coin he needs and somebody asks a stupid outrageous amount of money, it's not really going to be about the money. It would likely be more about the purpose.
The "Sam" person in the above post makes self serving statements. I have bought just one coin from him and did not have a good experience, nor was he interested in making it right in my eyes. This was when buying coins raw was still fairly common. Just my opinion though. I also recently bought a coin for $15,000 that he tried to sell me over a decade ago for $80,000. So I take that blurb above with a grain of salt.
@Insider2 said:
I'll make a prediction that Mr. Loy will eventually own a 1958 DDO cent. As for the 70-S...
@DMWJR said:
The "Sam" person in the above post makes self serving statements. I have bought just one coin from him and did not have a good experience, nor was he interested in making it right in my eyes. This was when buying coins raw was still fairly common. Just my opinion though. I also recently bought a coin for $15,000 that he tried to sell me over a decade ago for $80,000. So I take that blurb above with a grain of salt.
No, I wasn't implying you were him. You don't write like him He must have sent me 10 emails after that first incident wanting to know why I wouldn't respond to him. He was very dogged and pushy about it.
What’s he gonna do when the owner of the 70-S half dime demands $10M....and it’s the last coin left to buy for the set?
He may not seek this coin. Looking at the US Coins Complete Set (1792-1964), this coin is not needed along with the 1973 CC Dime w/ no arrows, 1933 Double Eagle, and 1870s $3. I am not sure why these coins would be excluded from the PCGS complete set, but they are. This will make completing the set much easier.
Now the coin grading companies are going to tell folks what makes a complete set? I can see that for those working on a Registry Set but...the rest of us?
@DMWJR said:
The "Sam" person in the above post makes self serving statements. I have bought just one coin from him and did not have a good experience, nor was he interested in making it right in my eyes. This was when buying coins raw was still fairly common. Just my opinion though. I also recently bought a coin for $15,000 that he tried to sell me over a decade ago for $80,000. So I take that blurb above with a grain of salt.
Sam Luke’s is a very good writer ,
I have bought several coins from Sam including the finest 1969 s DDO graded Ms 65 red
This coin is not even on the PCGS pop report
However this article written by Sam Luke’s is not true
Sam is a lying ,dishonest, untrustworthy man.
I had two of the three 1958 DDO Lincoln Cents graded at PCGS in California
I even introduced the man who owned all three coins to David Hall
There are at least 3 of these coins. I have seen them all.
@STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
Sam Luke’s is a very good writer ,
I have bought several coins from Sam including the finest 1969 s DDO graded Ms 65 red
This coin is not even on the PCGS pop report
However this article written by Sam Luke’s is not true
Sam is a lying ,dishonest, untrustworthy man.
I had two of the three 1958 DDO Lincoln Cents graded at PCGS in California
I even introduced the man who owned all three coins to David Hall
There are at least 3 of these coins. I have seen them all.
On CoinFacts there is an auction record from 1996 for a 1969 S DDO P65 RD. Is that your coin? Or does that mean two are out there in PCGS in the grade which are not in the pop report?
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
On CoinFacts there is an auction record from 1996 for a 1969 S DDO P65 RD. Is that your coin? Or does that mean two are out there in PCGS in the grade which are not in the pop report?
The part of the story left out of Sam’s $25,025 selling price for the ‘58 DDO , which others have shared here before, also does not paint him in a favorable light. I made one attempt to buy coins from him 25 years ago, which I would characterize as frustrating and fruitless.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
The only business I have transacted with Sam Lukes was as a seller of very hard to find Washington Quarter varieties, and he paid fast and the check was good.
That's all I can add to this thread, other than I thought the 58 DDO would come close to $400k.
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I was privileged to represent Mr. Hansen in the auction and indeed, we lost the coin in a shootout. Congratulations to the winner!
It goes to show you, when you're collecting a wide variety of coins, there's a limit to what you value any coin, no matter the rarity and the need to fill the hole. It's a fascinating rarity and we were certainly disappointed!
Looks like I'm going to be tasked with sorting through 1958 Lincoln Cent bags for the next few months...
President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
email: John@davidlawrence.com
2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
hey Blay, maybe it was Andy who made the comments!
I'd just like to give credit to our own MrEureka who correctly predicted the 280K hammer price during dinner at Barcocina as 5 of us watched the auction on the S-B app.
Also, the Kung Pao Chicken Tacos were delicious.
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It was a very exciting sale! The PCGS price was only guess, so using it as a guide was foolish.
I completely forgot about those! Thanks
Well, allow me to rephrase:
Do you know of another Lincoln Cent doubled die that even remotely approached this price point?
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I just spoke with Andy and he said that Pete did quite well on the 55 DDO and 58 DDO but lost on the 69-S DDO. That is the only comment he said he made to one person in the room. So he denies being the “copper dealer” that was previously mentioned making negative comments. Maybe it was another “copper dealer” who made them.
Interesting...
Who could possiblely be negative with the auction results? I think they are very positive for the market. Sounds like typical armchair comments from people who aren’t here.
Kung Pao Chicken Tacos?!?
@Zoins agree I would like to see that as well
Best place to buy !
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What’s he gonna do when the owner of the 70-S half dime demands $10M....and it’s the last coin left to buy for the set?
This is a cool story:
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rage quit
DeLoy and I have mutual friends. One of them is about as wealthy as DeLoy and involved in coins. He has told me that DL is building a museum to showcase all of his coins when his goal is complete. All of the proceeds will be donated to various foundations. So, for the length he is going to complete his goal, my question would be... why not buy it at any cost? There are only three in existence. If the buyer is smart, he won't sell it.
He'll buy it. I feel like if it's the last coin he needs and somebody asks a stupid outrageous amount of money, it's not really going to be about the money. It would likely be more about the purpose.
I'll make a prediction that Mr. Loy will eventually own a 1958 DDO cent. As for the 70-S...
The "Sam" person in the above post makes self serving statements. I have bought just one coin from him and did not have a good experience, nor was he interested in making it right in my eyes. This was when buying coins raw was still fairly common. Just my opinion though. I also recently bought a coin for $15,000 that he tried to sell me over a decade ago for $80,000. So I take that blurb above with a grain of salt.
:'( I'm not Sam! Honest.
No, I wasn't implying you were him. You don't write like him
He must have sent me 10 emails after that first incident wanting to know why I wouldn't respond to him. He was very dogged and pushy about it.
He may not seek this coin. Looking at the US Coins Complete Set (1792-1964), this coin is not needed along with the 1973 CC Dime w/ no arrows, 1933 Double Eagle, and 1870s $3. I am not sure why these coins would be excluded from the PCGS complete set, but they are. This will make completing the set much easier.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Now the coin grading companies are going to tell folks what makes a complete set? I can see that for those working on a Registry Set but...the rest of us?
Good thing you waited!
what world class collections did he ever build?
Did he write that himself, or pay someone else to do it?
Sam Luke’s is a very good writer ,
I have bought several coins from Sam including the finest 1969 s DDO graded Ms 65 red
This coin is not even on the PCGS pop report
However this article written by Sam Luke’s is not true
Sam is a lying ,dishonest, untrustworthy man.
I had two of the three 1958 DDO Lincoln Cents graded at PCGS in California
I even introduced the man who owned all three coins to David Hall
There are at least 3 of these coins. I have seen them all.
Be careful SB, we wouldn't want to lose you.
I'll bet there was a "softer" way to make your point.
On CoinFacts there is an auction record from 1996 for a 1969 S DDO P65 RD. Is that your coin? Or does that mean two are out there in PCGS in the grade which are not in the pop report?
http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/2923
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I’m still laughing at SB’s “testicular heft” line
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Interesting that only the 63's have pics up, but the "obverse detail" photo is from a 64red.
A PCGS Registry flash in the pan. And a butt ugly coin.
The part of the story left out of Sam’s $25,025 selling price for the ‘58 DDO , which others have shared here before, also does not paint him in a favorable light. I made one attempt to buy coins from him 25 years ago, which I would characterize as frustrating and fruitless.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
ilikemonsters- the Pcgs 65 red on CoinFacts was downgraded to
ms 64 r/b
The only business I have transacted with Sam Lukes was as a seller of very hard to find Washington Quarter varieties, and he paid fast and the check was good.
That's all I can add to this thread, other than I thought the 58 DDO would come close to $400k.