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And I thought seeing a 1909 Cent in space was cool...
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How about the reflection of the entire earth on the side of a car!
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Cool!
A huge waste of money to feed somebody's ego.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
If you want to sell something (be it rocket or car) you got to ADVERTISE.
Pete
If you got it, flaunt it... or just launch it into space.
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Do you mean a parade?
Watching it live on utube on my huge monitor was super awesome. The landing of the twin boosters was insane.
What a visionary , we need way more people like him.
Probably couldn't find a charging station so why not.
Elon uses his own money. Donald uses other peoples money and dupes them into thinking its his. I guess either one as impressive as the other.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
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See what actual FUNDING can do? NASA was always cut short, quibbled with, and expected to perform miracles in between.
Those boosters landing reminds me of Commander Cody and the lost planet MUSK men.........
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"A huge waste of money to feed somebody's ego.
" .... or ... "If you want to sell something (be it rocket or car) you got to ADVERTISE."
What a brilliant advertising move. Absolutely Not a waste of money. He will make money off of this launch. Plus, science is awesome and we got to watch it live ....
Seeing the two rocket boosters land at the same time was a surreal and sci-fi as it gets!
Yea I bet you all go out to buy a Tesla today.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
I was actually thinking about renting the rocket ......
Yea? I was thinking about buying one.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
Totally frood, man!
This is great. Did you also notice the touch screen in the car read “DON’T PANIC” ?
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"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
http://www.collectspace.com//news/news-020718a-spacex-falcon-heavy-roadster-easter-eggs.html
Actually, as much as a NASA supporter as I am, I will disagree with the above statement on certain grounds. (DON'T get me wrong, most of the people at NASA who do the actual science and engineering work are EXCELLENT, motivated and care about driving the US forward in space faster and better than any other country).
With regards to the original statement, I WILL agree with the statement that NASA is quibbled with, e.g. CONGRESS is the organization that tells NASA what to do with it's money. Sometimes Congress does it in fairly benign ways, e.g. it agrees to help fund certain projects NASA wants to do. However, sometimes Congress also does it in idiotic ways, e.g. telling NASA what technologies to use to produce the Space Launch System (SLS) NASA's theoretically upcoming super rocket. These sort of moves are basically job creation/(protection) moves in various congressional districts.
Also, NASA has evolved into a government paperwork culture. To get anything done you are working in a stultifying bureaucracy, where many people on top are protecting their asses by following the paperwork rules, instead of pushing the envelope in ways that they KNOW are correct.
The combination of these two forces dramatically increase the length of time necessary to develop a new system, and the cost of production of that new system. Funding per se is NOT the main issue. The Falcon Heavy was first talked about in 2011. Here we are 7 years later, and it cost roughly one billion dollars to bring to fruition. It will launch roughly 60 tons to Low Earth Orbit (LEO), at a cost of $100,000,000 per launch. The SLS was also first announced in 2011. SO FAR it has cost roughly twelve billion dollars, and will most likely cost another 10 - 20 billion dollars to bring it to production. When it eventually (hopefully?) launches, (the first unmanned SLS launch is penciled in for 2020) each launch will cost AT A MINIMUM $1,000,000,000. For AT LEAST the first 5 years of it's usage, it will only be able to launch 70 tons into LEO, and eventually 130 tons into LEO.
It does not take a genius to see that for the launch of 3 Falcon Heavys you are getting roughly 2.5 times the amount of tonnage delivered to LEO as the SLS can/will do (at least until 2025, and even then 3 Falcon Heavys will be able to launch 1.4 times the tonnage to LEO). The cost for the 3 Falcon Heavys... $300,000,000. The cost of the single SLS... $1,000,000,000.
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To me, the greater accomplishments are: general public excitement and humor over the launch, car and the message "Don't Panic" from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; and the nearly routine recovery of the two booster Falcon 9s in a spectacular landing at KSC. (The core booster was lost due to insufficient fuel to make it to the landing barge.) The deep soak in the Van Allen radiation belts and restart was another very important event - maybe even more than the launch. ?
(There had been 'super secret hidden government' hope that Musk had convinced DT to hop in the company space suit and take a ride in the roadster.....Too bad that part didn't work.
Given the secrecy of David Bowie's funeral, I think it would be awesome to find out that his body is actually in that spacesuit!
Or under the hood....?
Well, when it comes to EV, I'm all for that move. And a pioneer is a pioneer. Let's face it, we gotta burn fossil fuels, in the end.
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YES!
What a brilliant way to dispose of a body.......suit it up in a space suit and launch it into orbit around Mars. For Elon this was just a test run for his own eventual trip into eternity.
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If you zoom in really close you can see the booster over the California sky.
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Fire some rare earth metals into space so in 30k years primitive life forms will be fashioning jewelry out of it, using it for exchanging goods and killing each other over it.
This was even better last month.
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Lots of blood for oil.
It was a significant accomplishment and should be regarded as such. Cheers, RickO
The publicity value of the car was exceptional. Just think of how many people worldwide saw this. Now think of the cost of a single 30 second commercial in the recent Super Bowl (one of the lowest rated ever).
Then it got even better with the twin landing of the two booster rockets. I couldn't help but think of watching Tom Corbett, Space Cadet back in the early 1950s!
He gets an "A+" in sales promotion.
We did a great job of destroying our own planet with garbage so we might as well move on to the universe.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
Here are some shots taken recently from the Huntsman Telephoto Array in Australia.
Also, the car has been added to JPL's Horizon's database (which generates ephemerides for Solar System bodies) as Target 143205.
https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi#top
Finally, there is now a Wikipedia page about "Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk%27s_Tesla_Roadster
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I wonder how much that car will sell for at auction in a few hundred years after 'discovered'?
Where do you get your news? The Donalds twitter account? Lol
The game, which saw the Eagles bring home their first Super Bowl trophy, brought in an average viewership of 103.4 million for NBC. That makes it the tenth-most watched program in U.S. television history.
If I read it on the internet I know it must be true.
Ah, NASA put a car in space in l971, and landed it on the Moon and drove it around. Elon hasn't even matched that 47 years later with orders of magnitude more tech available........ So when he gets a solar powered Tesla for Matt Damon to drive around on Mars, then I will be impressed.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EliLP5uEYAU
One of my favorite possessions, a (lunar surface flown) license plate for the LRV-001. It's roughly 1.5" X 0.75", and about the thickness of an aluminum beer can. There are maybe 20 of these licenses in existence.
Here's a picture of Dave Scott (Commander of Apollo 15, the mission the first lunar rover was on) and the LRV, that Dave was kind enough to sign to me with "Keep on Trucking".
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Taxpayers can't afford way more people like him.
Last I heard SpaceX was (pardon the pun) in the black. It pays taxes to the US government. Further, the new space architecture they are creating is creating many well paying jobs (with the strong likelihood of more new jobs to come), and the basic science to further increase the economy.
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Elon Musk doesn't fart without a subsidy. Nearly 50 years ago us old guys watched in awe as three men headed to the Moon and two successfully walked on the surface. All returned safely. Two years later and electric moon rover was included (not as spiffy as the Tesla certainly but well built and efficient,) transported the men from Earth to distances that walking alone did not permit.
Today the folks in their thirties and forties and early fifties stare in awe at a higher tech Saturn rocket with a Tesla in it. Big F'ing deal.
They missed America's finest hour so I suppose all that they get are scraps.
I would be the first to agree with you vis-a-vis subsidies regarding Tesla, but SpaceX is a VERY different company. (Also, let's not forget the US Government subsidizes all the Big Oil companies etc.).
As an aficionado of the US space program, I am VERY impressed with the CURRENT state of space development in the US. For the most part the manned space program from roughly 1986 - 2012 was a snooze to me. However, the development of commercial rockets over last 5 years IMO have been almost as exciting as the Great Space Race of the 1960's. Don't get me wrong, I grew up during the Space Race and LOVED it. However, during that time NASA peaked at about 5% of the US Government budget, and the Agency was young enough that it hadn't gotten hidebound in paperwork, although ALL the astronauts of that era stated that the paperwork tidal wave was already starting to make itself felt by 1966. Part of that no doubt was due to the fact that the manned Mercury program at it's core was several hundred people, and by the height of the Apollo program you were talking ~ 400,000 people working on it.
FWIW, these days NASA is roughly 0.5% of the US Government budget, e.g. roughly HALF OF ONE PERCENT. No doubt about it, Musk has gotten some subsidies on developing the Falcon 9 rocket, BUT as mentioned in my first post in this thread, his total outlay on the Falcon Heavy, is roughly $1,000,000,000 (which includes ALL subsidies) while the unflown and still to be developed SLS has already run $12,000,000,000 and will probably run another $20,000,000,000 before all is said and done. So you tell me, which is a better deal for the US taxpayer? I look upon the current commercial space race somewhat akin to the original cross continental railroads, which also were subsidized, as a necessary precursor to the large scale "settling" of the New Frontier.
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I came out of my chair when the twin boosters set down simultaneously. I'm still not sure I believe what I saw.
Electric cars and online sales are chump change compared to getting in the US governments wallet. Musk and Bezos know where the real money is at.
Saw a great photoshop on Facebook. The Tesla, the Earth in the background, and in the upper right-hand corner, the U.S.S. Enterprise!!!!
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It would have been a nice touch to have had at least a Silver Eagle mounted on the dashboard.
Since some others around the internets are criticizing the payload, I shall disingenuously join in.
How could Elon Musk have been so selfish and short-sighted as to not think about the coin hobby first? It's not his rocket to do with as he chooses. A Silver Eagle mounted on the dashboard is the least he could have done. It would have greatly advanced the agenda of numismatics ... in a most peculiar way.
Maybe a colorized one like this (the fewer colorized eagles on Earth, the better).
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If you want one real bad to hurt your eyes in person, I found it here:
https://ebay.com/itm/2015-SILVER-EAGLE-SPACE-PLUTO-1-Oz-999-SILVER-COLOR-MINTAGE-100-PCS-WITH-COA-/322065193532
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