various counterfeits, main thread. different sites. 4-4-18 - error altered authentic?

LanceNewmanOCC · January 26, 2018 4:18PM

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i'll add links in OP for convenience of reporting.

1869 + 1887 wus - fakes sold

seated dollars active

1916 25c
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ebay image from removed listing link
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ArizonaRareCoins · January 26, 2018 5:45PM

Gone

mannie gray · January 27, 2018 1:43AM

That's a fake for sure.

ricko · January 27, 2018 7:00AM

Gone now... thanks for the picture capture though... wish you had the reverse too.... Cheers, RickO

johnny9434 · January 27, 2018 9:12AM

poof (and glad of it)

LanceNewmanOCC · January 28, 2018 3:52AM

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16-d 10c, or not. - seller

LanceNewmanOCC · January 28, 2018 4:33AM

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you can tell it is off but it sure looks good too. seller

LanceNewmanOCC · February 6, 2018 9:13AM

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counterfeits abound

etsy

LanceNewmanOCC · February 7, 2018 11:00AM

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ebay confederate states - seller
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Kkathyl · February 7, 2018 11:06AM

wow looks like a china set for sure

LanceNewmanOCC · February 7, 2018 11:08AM

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gak 1 - gak 2 - gak 3 - seller
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LanceNewmanOCC · February 7, 2018 2:39PM

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looks awry to me seller
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LanceNewmanOCC · February 7, 2018 2:41PM

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Jimnight · February 7, 2018 2:55PM

Fake junk.

RogerB · February 7, 2018 3:24PM

How can re-offering of these fakes be prevented?

LanceNewmanOCC · February 12, 2018 10:39AM

@RogerB said:
How can re-offering of these fakes be prevented?

that is the question on the minds of all the viewers.

as odd as it may sound, it seems that it is more about preventing them from being sold than relisted/reoffered and then disincentivizing those with ill intent from doing so again with banned accounts, restrictions or more.

we used to be able to harass the sellers but ebay put layers between the activists for honest vs dishonest.

many here have been at it for MANY years, yours truly included. imo, it is simply crime management more than prevention unfortunately.
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LanceNewmanOCC · February 14, 2018 12:32AM

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1916 - seller
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LanceNewmanOCC · February 26, 2018 8:34PM

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proof?
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LanceNewmanOCC · February 27, 2018 6:54AM

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seated - seller

bust dollar - diff seller

LanceNewmanOCC · February 28, 2018 3:59PM

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seems bad to me? - seller

this group is bad
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LanceNewmanOCC · February 28, 2018 4:36PM

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morgan - seller

LanceNewmanOCC · March 1, 2018 7:40AM

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seated dollar - seller

Jcld · March 1, 2018 8:18AM

@LanceNewmanOCC said:
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morgan - seller

What are you seeing that is wrong with this one?

LanceNewmanOCC · March 1, 2018 8:28AM

@Jcld said:
What are you seeing that is wrong with this one?

for me it is several things. the color, overall look, uncrisp details all factor but the thing that seals the deal for me is the central weakness and usually the first thing i notice which is VERY common amongst morgan counterfeits.

not so much just weakness but a common pattern of weakness. if you look at the date/letters around the legend, you can see how bloblish they look, minor but in this case minor counts for a lot. the ear is nearly non-existent which ties to the central common weakness. LIBERTY is often shallow as well and can also come with unsharp edges (blobish).

obv/rev for convenience.

Jimnight · March 1, 2018 8:44AM

Not to long ago there was a thread with a counterfeit 1877 Indian head cent... It scared the heck out of me.

LanceNewmanOCC · March 1, 2018 8:50AM

@Jimnight said:
Not to long ago there was a thread with a counterfeit 1877 Indian head cent... It scared the heck out of me.

is it the one in this thread, near the top?
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LanceNewmanOCC · March 1, 2018 8:52AM

@Jimnight said:
Not to long ago there was a thread with a counterfeit 1877 Indian head cent... It scared the heck out of me.

i looked for the image in this thread and saw i neglected to link the seller account and i looked to see what else they had and noticed a lincoln. looked at the reverse and it is a good example of the "blobish" lettering/devices i am referring to.

Jcld · March 1, 2018 8:53AM

@LanceNewmanOCC said:

@Jcld said:
What are you seeing that is wrong with this one?

for me it is several things. the color, overall look, uncrisp details all factor but the thing that seals the deal for me is the central weakness and usually the first thing i notice which is VERY common amongst morgan counterfeits.

not so much just weakness but a common pattern of weakness. if you look at the date/letters around the legend, you can see how bloblish they look, minor but in this case minor counts for a lot. the ear is nearly non-existent which ties to the central common weakness. LIBERTY is often shallow as well and can also come with unsharp edges (blobish).

obv/rev for convenience.

Thank you for the explanation it is very interesting. So none of that weakness or blobiness comes from circulation wear?

Jimnight · March 1, 2018 9:20AM

@LanceNewmanOCC said:

is it the one in this thread, near the top?

No... Not the one. The one I'm referring to had something go on with the N in ONE on the reverse....WOW that one is scary also.

Jimnight · March 1, 2018 9:39AM

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jwitten · March 1, 2018 10:31AM

Here's a fake $2 1/2 Indian on ebay going off today
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-P-Gold-Quarter-Eagle-Indian-Head-2-50-Old-US-Coin-22k-2-1-2-Dollars-G068/122982528019?epid=170444573&hash=item1ca2547413:g:FIgAAOSwpw1aXVCd

LanceNewmanOCC · March 1, 2018 10:57AM

@Jimnight said:
@LanceNewmanOCC

Sorry, I've been looking for it but can't find it. But I'm sure you must have seen it also. Maybe about 3 months back or so.

i only was released from my mission around the first of the year, so i probably didn't see it.

i'll tinker in the search feature to see what i can turn up.
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Jimnight · March 1, 2018 12:11PM

@LanceNewmanOCC said:

i'll tinker in the search feature to see what i can turn up.

I'm still looking myself. I never give up, I'll find it.

Jimnight · March 1, 2018 12:37PM

@LanceNewmanOCC

Found it. I don't no how to move it from the forum search to this thread.

LanceNewmanOCC · March 1, 2018 1:10PM

@Jimnight said:
@LanceNewmanOCC

Found it. I don't no how to move it from the forum search to this thread.

copy the address from the url bar at the top of the thread page.

here is the url to this thread so it will look similar.

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/11926494#Comment_11926494
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LanceNewmanOCC · March 2, 2018 6:22AM

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seated dollar - seller

coin22lover · March 2, 2018 6:31AM

Here's one that legitimately fooled me (seller's pictures)

ricko · March 2, 2018 6:35AM

Wow... this thread goes a long way to supporting the other poll thread about quantity of fakes on ebay....
@LanceNewmanOCC.... good information on the 'general weakness' and 'blobbish letters'...I have used those as points of suspicion in the past...Cheers, RickO

LanceNewmanOCC · March 7, 2018 4:07PM

@ricko said:

good information on the 'general weakness' and 'blobbish letters'...I have used those as points of suspicion in the past...Cheers, RickO

ty, we all support each other in one way or another here.

@coin22lover

that is a tough one.
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LanceNewmanOCC · March 7, 2018 4:08PM

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seller

LanceNewmanOCC · March 11, 2018 3:21PM

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what do you think?

st. gaudens - seller

Harlequin · March 11, 2018 3:59PM

@RogerB said:
How can re-offering of these fakes be prevented?

When people stop buying raw coins I would guess .......

kiyote · March 11, 2018 4:12PM

Eeesh

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1936-S-50C-Bay-Bridge-Silver-Commemorative-Half-Dollar/183111251712?epid=170431097&hash=item2aa247f700:g:EP0AAOSwmWFanh4G

LanceNewmanOCC · March 13, 2018 7:11AM

@kiyote said:
Eeesh

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1936-S-50C-Bay-Bridge-Silver-Commemorative-Half-Dollar/183111251712?epid=170431097&hash=item2aa247f700:g:EP0AAOSwmWFanh4G

reported
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