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1852 Moffatt & Company gold pieces look like US gold.

RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 26, 2018 1:20PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Someone will eventually find the rest of this story.


Treasury Department
May 4, 1852

George N. Eckert, Esq.
Director of the Mint
Philadelphia

Sir:
I acknowledge receipt of your letter of the 1st inst. on the subject of the resemblance of the coin issued by Moffatt & Co. of California to the regular coin of the United States, and state in reply that the Department will by the next steamer, address the United States assayer at San Francisco on the subject

Very Respectfully, Your Obt. Servt.
/s/ Thomas Corwin,
Secretary of the Treasury

RG104 Entry1, Box May 1852

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW... what a way to do business.

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool!

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But everybody knows that changing one tiny thing in the design, even if it be the addition of a tiny "iota" mark inside the craw, protects the maker from charges of counterfeiting!!!!!

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," due out late 2025.
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ..or wacking it onto a scrapped-off coin.... ;)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB ....Do you expect to find a follow up communication? Or is it likely lost to history... Cheers, RickO

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @RogerB ....Do you expect to find a follow up communication? Or is it likely lost to history... Cheers, RickO

    Great question!

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 27, 2018 9:44AM

    That's really neat. It could be they just dropped the subject as U.S. gold coinage production ramped up in the 1850s, and the production of territorial pieces correspondingly dwindled.

  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,059 ✭✭✭✭✭

    People really knew good penmanship back then. My Mom had great handwriting. I don't.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Treashunt said:

    @ricko said:
    @RogerB ....Do you expect to find a follow up communication? Or is it likely lost to history... Cheers, RickO

    Great question!

    I hope to eventually find additional correspondence on the subject. But the Mint archives have no useful index, finding aid or anything that will tell where to look. Must of the material was collected during the Greater Depression (1930s not 2000s) and workers put documents in boxes and gave them names....no real organization.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a bit of the 5-page letter from Dir Eckert that prompted Corwin's reply at the top of this thread.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:

    @Treashunt said:

    @ricko said:
    @RogerB ....Do you expect to find a follow up communication? Or is it likely lost to history... Cheers, RickO

    Great question!

    I hope to eventually find additional correspondence on the subject. But the Mint archives have no useful index, finding aid or anything that will tell where to look. Must of the material was collected during the Greater Depression (1930s not 2000s) and workers put documents in boxes and gave them names....no real organization.

    Good luck in your research!

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I had to guess, the original letter must have referred to the 1849-50 dated Moffat pieces, as the 1852-dated $10s couldn't have been mistaken by anyone for a US or even an Assay Office piece. The earlier Moffat $5s and $10s continued to circulate past 1851 and the James King of William debacle, as evidenced by the number of Moffat pieces found on the Central America.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭

    @Jimnight said:
    WOW... what a way to do business.

    wow what penmanship too!

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