Your lucky you got your money back.
The seller could have claimed that the items in the pictures were not the ones he sent you.
He could claim YOUR scamming HIM.
and so it goes in the world of E-bay
Bob
That's exactly right. Also the reason I cringe at the thought of attempting to sell coins on ebay. A scamming buyer could be holding a fake, win my auction and make a claim that's what I sent them.
I had another instance where I purchased $5K in gold maple leafs and received an empty box. Only thing that saved me there was they required signature confirmation and I wasn't home at the time so had to pickup from local post office. The second they handed me the box I could tell it was empty. I immediately requested the postmaster and opened with him as my witness. Still took over a month to get my refund and turns out he scammed 3 others buyers at the same time. Last I was able to check his account was still active, go figure.
I guess the good news for me is both times I was able to recover my funds.
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@vplite said:
I got a half dozen as gag gifts. What happens when it is not solid silver (Ha)? Coins will be "not as described" and money refunded?
They'll ask you to send them back and the airmail cost to China for your 6oz in weight is about $19.
I just bought a genuine one by Osborne Mint from a US seller for $77. Let see how it compare. I'll test it and share the pix.
@Kkathyl said: @derryb the listing has since been changed to 9.90.
I still see 99 cents....618 sold....already shipped via DHL eCommerce
All of the overseas seller claimed 2500 limited mintage yet if you add all the pieces they sold; it has exceeded 2500's without those genuine ones sold by US seller.
I received the original Osborne Mint; paid $75 and it is beautiful. 1733 and 1739 is on the way
@vplite said:
I got a half dozen as gag gifts. What happens when it is not solid silver (Ha)? Coins will be "not as described" and money refunded?
They'll ask you to send them back and the airmail cost to China for your 6oz in weight is about $19.
I just bought a genuine one by Osborne Mint from a US seller for $77. Let see how it compare. I'll test it and share the pix.
Unless it's different with an overseas seller, the seller would have to pay return shipping if it is not as described. It would cost more than the item is worth, so they would probably just give you a refund and tell you to keep them.
@vplite said:
I got a half dozen as gag gifts. What happens when it is not solid silver (Ha)? Coins will be "not as described" and money refunded?
They'll ask you to send them back and the airmail cost to China for your 6oz in weight is about $19.
I just bought a genuine one by Osborne Mint from a US seller for $77. Let see how it compare. I'll test it and share the pix.
Unless it's different with an overseas seller, the seller would have to pay return shipping if it is not as described. It would cost more than the item is worth, so they would probably just give you a refund and tell you to keep them.
So, the smart people here on this board buy the "pure silver" ones for 99 cents each, free shipping, file an SNAD against the seller, get there 99 cents back, and the seller has a total loss.
This wipes out 2% of their sales, on an item with a 43 cents per item profit, so they are still WAY ahead.
So i stumbled across this thread, as i too came across this "silver coin" on EBay. at .99 each. My greed got the best of me. i ordered 100 of them and have tracking confirmation that they are on their way. Id like to know, being that they were misrepresented clearly, using fake pics (that say .999 solid silver NOT .999 solid copper) what will i need to do thru EBay to get my money back. i have NO intentions on paying to have them returned.
Do we even know if they are metal or plastic?
If they are SNAD then the seller has to pay for return postage as per Ebay guarantee...my "coins" said .999 copper as opposed to the .999 silver stated and shown on the auction page. I did start a return request and asked for the seller to provide me with a return postage paid label. I doubt that will happen but we will see.
They have until the 26th to respond.
I do actually want to keep a few of the 10 i ordered....and...I even doubt that they are plated copper but have no clue.
My 5 bitcoins came today ....
Not bad quality coin, good conversation piece to carry around and mess with your friends and acquaintance's.
Still amazes me they can send 5 of these with plastic case from China to USA for $3.95
Bob
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@BobSav said:
My 5 bitcoins came today ....
Not bad quality coin, good conversation piece to carry around and mess with your friends and acquaintance's.
Still amazes me they can send 5 of these with plastic case from China to USA for $3.95
Bob
so is it a metal coin or plastic? any metals guys out there that can get to the bottom of what they really are? i have 100 of them on the way. i play poker and looking to sell them to my crypto-buying buddies as card protectors
@BobSav said:
My 5 bitcoins came today ....
Not bad quality coin, good conversation piece to carry around and mess with your friends and acquaintance's.
Still amazes me they can send 5 of these with plastic case from China to USA for $3.95
Bob
so is it a metal coin or plastic? any metals guys out there that can get to the bottom of what they really are? i have 100 of them on the way. i play poker and looking to sell them to my crypto-buying buddies as card protectors
They feel hefty, so I would say they are at least metal of some sort. I only ordered 5, and I figured they would not be silver, BUT they were advertised as silver, so I am still leaning on filing a dispute as well. Sellers should not be able to deceive like this even if the deal was still decent.
@BobSav said:
They are metal I don't know how anyone could think they are plastic.
Bob
The shipping label says something about plastic, probably just to get around customs without issues. If you have not seen or felt them in hand yet, that is why there was confusion.
@GRANDAM said:
How do they look? Do they look like cheap fakes or are they close to the real ones?
What do you consider the real thing? It looks exactly like the silver plated copper version found on ebay, as that is what it is. Also, I noticed they changed the title of the listing to "silver plated" now, but the pictures still show the .999 silver ones.
@GRANDAM said:
How do they look? Do they look like cheap fakes or are they close to the real ones?
What do you consider the real thing? It looks exactly like the silver plated copper version found on ebay, as that is what it is. Also, I noticed they changed the title of the listing to "silver plated" now, but the pictures still show the .999 silver ones.
This is what is strange to me also. I ordered 6 with my measley ebay $6 I had. Nothing to lose. Lol Of course the auction showed a coin with .999 silver and the title stated they were silver. What I don't understand now is how the seller can change his title to silver plated after a purchase is made. How can ebay let someone get away with changing descriptions and titles after purchases are made? I'm gonna keep mine as they are kind of cool, worthless, but cool. Lol
This is strange also,,,,,, auction is now $0.99 with a best offer option.
If you make a best offer it must be MORE than $0.99,,,,,, what's up with that?
Make Offer
Your Offer :
$per item
Please enter a price of US $ 0.99 or more .
Quantity :more than 10 available
Add message to seller
Review Offer
Buy It Now:$0.99
@bsshog40 said:
This is what is strange to me also. I ordered 6 with my measley ebay $6 I had. Nothing to lose. Lol Of course the auction showed a coin with .999 silver and the title stated they were silver. What I don't understand now is how the seller can change his title to silver plated after a purchase is made. How can ebay let someone get away with changing descriptions and titles after purchases are made? I'm gonna keep mine as they are kind of cool, worthless, but cool. Lol
I too ordered 6 of the solid silver version which now show silver plated iron. Seems odd that they are allowed to switch out the title on already purchased and shipped coins. The description still states solid silver though. Note: I did not really expect to get solid silver coins.
I also ordered 2 of the solid copper version at the same time and I also ordered 2 of the solid gold version at the same time. I am expecting the solid gold ones to be as advertised
Both of the copper and gold talk about "color" and plating.
Guess I'll see what I get when they arrive. I have wasted $10 on much worse.
Regardless of what the ad said, did anybody here really think they were going to get 1oz of silver for 99 cents.
If so I have some swamp er I mean development land in Florida for sale.
Bob
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.. the plated one in the auction says .999 silver and the one I got says .999 copper.
...The auction for one I bought had a limited edition number on the edge..the one I got does not.
...The auction picture shows a COA...no COA received
...the seller has since changed the title on still existing auction to say silver plated iron coin while the auction still says pure .999 silver and the coin says .999 copper
Kinda paints a SNAD to me anyway. I thought what i would get would be the coin as pictured...I did not receive anything like it at all
Did anyone really think they were getting an ounce of silver for $.99? No, not if they had enough brains to operate a computer.
Mine seem to iron covered with a silver -colored plating, since a magnet attracts them.
I knew they were phony - I bought 5 as gag gifts.
I guess many (see his recent feedback) feel the need to "punish" this seller since the item is clearly not as described, but this seems kind of snarky and hypocritical since buyers had to know the sale was for fakes.
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That's exactly right. Also the reason I cringe at the thought of attempting to sell coins on ebay. A scamming buyer could be holding a fake, win my auction and make a claim that's what I sent them.
I had another instance where I purchased $5K in gold maple leafs and received an empty box. Only thing that saved me there was they required signature confirmation and I wasn't home at the time so had to pickup from local post office. The second they handed me the box I could tell it was empty. I immediately requested the postmaster and opened with him as my witness. Still took over a month to get my refund and turns out he scammed 3 others buyers at the same time. Last I was able to check his account was still active, go figure.
I guess the good news for me is both times I was able to recover my funds.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
They'll ask you to send them back and the airmail cost to China for your 6oz in weight is about $19.
I just bought a genuine one by Osborne Mint from a US seller for $77. Let see how it compare. I'll test it and share the pix.
All of the overseas seller claimed 2500 limited mintage yet if you add all the pieces they sold; it has exceeded 2500's without those genuine ones sold by US seller.
I received the original Osborne Mint; paid $75 and it is beautiful. 1733 and 1739 is on the way
I'm thinking abut getting a few more (real ones) This would make a very nice unique gift giving items...
1739
Unless it's different with an overseas seller, the seller would have to pay return shipping if it is not as described. It would cost more than the item is worth, so they would probably just give you a refund and tell you to keep them.
Real ones?
.999 solid silver by Osborne Mint
Of note in the listing:
Shipping and handling
Item location: Yiwu, China
Shipping to: Worldwide
Excludes: Central America and Caribbean, Albania, Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, San Marino, Serbia, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, Vatican City State, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Taiwan, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela, Bermuda, Greenland, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Algeria, Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cape Verde Islands, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Congo, Democratic Republic of the, Congo, Republic of the, Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon Republic, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mali, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mayotte, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Reunion, Rwanda, Saint Helena, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Swaziland, Tanzania, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Western Sahara, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Bahrain, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Qatar, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan Republic, Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, Georgia, India, Nepal, American Samoa, Cook Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Guam, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, New Caledonia, Niue, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Wallis and Futuna, Western Samoa
That is about 125 countries they don't ship to. Not many left.........
Iceland? Vatican City?
Those pics are the same as the 99 cent ones..capsule, edge numbers, cert
My Bitcoin left Shanghai and are in Frankfurt...shocked that tracking works
Why would anyone even look at these???!!!
Novelty item at best. Ya gotta know it NOT .999 silver. Cute though
Exactly....I have bought dumber things in my life. I am not buying them as an investment for the future.
So, the smart people here on this board buy the "pure silver" ones for 99 cents each, free shipping, file an SNAD against the seller, get there 99 cents back, and the seller has a total loss.
This wipes out 2% of their sales, on an item with a 43 cents per item profit, so they are still WAY ahead.
Yes, they copied US seller's pictures and detail description as well.....
I bought 5 of those cheap China ones and April 1st is rapidly approaching. I think I'll freak a few people out!!
Should be fun.
bob
Mine made it to JFK from Frankfurt on Saturday...DHL said tracking "would now discontinue"....
yes
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Mine came today also...Definitely feels like plastic but with some weight and a great novelty item.
...mine came today also...they say fine copper on them instead of fine silver...time to get the blow torch out
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So i stumbled across this thread, as i too came across this "silver coin" on EBay. at .99 each. My greed got the best of me. i ordered 100 of them and have tracking confirmation that they are on their way. Id like to know, being that they were misrepresented clearly, using fake pics (that say .999 solid silver NOT .999 solid copper) what will i need to do thru EBay to get my money back. i have NO intentions on paying to have them returned.
Do we even know if they are metal or plastic?
If they are SNAD then the seller has to pay for return postage as per Ebay guarantee...my "coins" said .999 copper as opposed to the .999 silver stated and shown on the auction page. I did start a return request and asked for the seller to provide me with a return postage paid label. I doubt that will happen but we will see.
They have until the 26th to respond.
I do actually want to keep a few of the 10 i ordered....and...I even doubt that they are plated copper but have no clue.
My 5 bitcoins came today
....
Not bad quality coin, good conversation piece to carry around and mess with your friends and acquaintance's.
Still amazes me they can send 5 of these with plastic case from China to USA for $3.95
Bob
Lordmarcovan, WTCG, YogiBerraFan, Phoenin21, LindeDad, Coll3ctor, blue594, robkoll, Mike Dixon, BloodMan, Flakthat and others.
so is it a metal coin or plastic? any metals guys out there that can get to the bottom of what they really are? i have 100 of them on the way. i play poker and looking to sell them to my crypto-buying buddies as card protectors
They feel hefty, so I would say they are at least metal of some sort. I only ordered 5, and I figured they would not be silver, BUT they were advertised as silver, so I am still leaning on filing a dispute as well. Sellers should not be able to deceive like this even if the deal was still decent.
Bluff 'em...file and see what happens. I bet you (we) get our money refunded...but if not we still have some novelty items.
They are metal I don't know how anyone could think they are plastic.
Bob
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Mine have not arrived yet,,,,, ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️
The shipping label says something about plastic, probably just to get around customs without issues. If you have not seen or felt them in hand yet, that is why there was confusion.
How do they look? Do they look like cheap fakes or are they close to the real ones?
What do you consider the real thing? It looks exactly like the silver plated copper version found on ebay, as that is what it is. Also, I noticed they changed the title of the listing to "silver plated" now, but the pictures still show the .999 silver ones.
I bought a real one on eBay also, will compare when both arrive.
This is what is strange to me also. I ordered 6 with my measley ebay $6 I had. Nothing to lose. Lol Of course the auction showed a coin with .999 silver and the title stated they were silver. What I don't understand now is how the seller can change his title to silver plated after a purchase is made. How can ebay let someone get away with changing descriptions and titles after purchases are made? I'm gonna keep mine as they are kind of cool, worthless, but cool. Lol
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This is strange also,,,,,, auction is now $0.99 with a best offer option.
If you make a best offer it must be MORE than $0.99,,,,,, what's up with that?
Make Offer
Your Offer :
$per item
Please enter a price of US $ 0.99 or more .
Quantity :more than 10 available
Add message to seller
Review Offer
Buy It Now:$0.99
I too ordered 6 of the solid silver version which now show silver plated iron. Seems odd that they are allowed to switch out the title on already purchased and shipped coins. The description still states solid silver though. Note: I did not really expect to get solid silver coins.
I also ordered 2 of the solid copper version at the same time and I also ordered 2 of the solid gold version at the same time. I am expecting the solid gold ones to be as advertised
Both of the copper and gold talk about "color" and plating.
Guess I'll see what I get when they arrive. I have wasted $10 on much worse.
Yup, seller changed the title but not the description, This is from my order page..NOT the same as when I ordered
..and:
...and the coin says .999 copper instead of the pictured .999 silver
https://ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin-Silver-Plated-Commemorative-Bitcoin-Collectible-Iron-Coin/362197944101?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Regardless of what the ad said, did anybody here really think they were going to get 1oz of silver for 99 cents.
If so I have some swamp er I mean development land in Florida for sale.
Bob
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Never assumed I was getting silver BUT:
.. the plated one in the auction says .999 silver and the one I got says .999 copper.
...The auction for one I bought had a limited edition number on the edge..the one I got does not.
...The auction picture shows a COA...no COA received
...the seller has since changed the title on still existing auction to say silver plated iron coin while the auction still says pure .999 silver and the coin says .999 copper
Kinda paints a SNAD to me anyway. I thought what i would get would be the coin as pictured...I did not receive anything like it at all
It's not the silver issue ....that was known
Got mine - and yes they say copper
Although they are worth the 99 cents I paid I filed a complaint because of the misleading listing
Exactly...and I really doubt there will be a response from the seller
Did anyone really think they were getting an ounce of silver for $.99? No, not if they had enough brains to operate a computer.
Mine seem to iron covered with a silver -colored plating, since a magnet attracts them.
I knew they were phony - I bought 5 as gag gifts.
I guess many (see his recent feedback) feel the need to "punish" this seller since the item is clearly not as described, but this seems kind of snarky and hypocritical since buyers had to know the sale was for fakes.