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  • BobSav
    BobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @crazyhounddog said:
    What do they make the real bit coins out of?

    electricity

    Lots and lots of electricity, when I quit a few years ago I was running a $350-400 a month electric bill.

    Bob

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  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    Ahhhh...missed that

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,072 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BobSav said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @crazyhounddog said:
    What do they make the real bit coins out of?

    electricity

    Lots and lots of electricity, when I quit a few years ago I was running a $350-400 a month electric bill.

    Bob

    Yes, crazy wattage. Cumulatively, the miners supposedly use more power than the entire country of Denmark.

    China just instituted limits for the miner server farms there as they are using so many TWhr that it was becoming a problem.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • blitzdude
    blitzdude Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BobSav said:

    Your lucky you got your money back.
    The seller could have claimed that the items in the pictures were not the ones he sent you.
    He could claim YOUR scamming HIM.
    and so it goes in the world of E-bay
    Bob

    That's exactly right. Also the reason I cringe at the thought of attempting to sell coins on ebay. A scamming buyer could be holding a fake, win my auction and make a claim that's what I sent them.

    I had another instance where I purchased $5K in gold maple leafs and received an empty box. Only thing that saved me there was they required signature confirmation and I wasn't home at the time so had to pickup from local post office. The second they handed me the box I could tell it was empty. I immediately requested the postmaster and opened with him as my witness. Still took over a month to get my refund and turns out he scammed 3 others buyers at the same time. Last I was able to check his account was still active, go figure.

    I guess the good news for me is both times I was able to recover my funds.

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  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @vplite said:
    I got a half dozen as gag gifts. What happens when it is not solid silver (Ha)? Coins will be "not as described" and money refunded?

    They'll ask you to send them back and the airmail cost to China for your 6oz in weight is about $19.
    I just bought a genuine one by Osborne Mint from a US seller for $77. Let see how it compare. I'll test it and share the pix.

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BigA said:

    @Kkathyl said:
    @derryb the listing has since been changed to 9.90.

    I still see 99 cents....618 sold....already shipped via DHL eCommerce

    All of the overseas seller claimed 2500 limited mintage yet if you add all the pieces they sold; it has exceeded 2500's without those genuine ones sold by US seller.
    I received the original Osborne Mint; paid $75 and it is beautiful. 1733 and 1739 is on the way

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm thinking abut getting a few more (real ones) This would make a very nice unique gift giving items...

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1739

  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Paradisefound said:

    @vplite said:
    I got a half dozen as gag gifts. What happens when it is not solid silver (Ha)? Coins will be "not as described" and money refunded?

    They'll ask you to send them back and the airmail cost to China for your 6oz in weight is about $19.
    I just bought a genuine one by Osborne Mint from a US seller for $77. Let see how it compare. I'll test it and share the pix.

    Unless it's different with an overseas seller, the seller would have to pay return shipping if it is not as described. It would cost more than the item is worth, so they would probably just give you a refund and tell you to keep them.

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    I'm thinking abut getting a few more (real ones) This would make a very nice unique gift giving items...

    Real ones?

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BigA said:

    I'm thinking abut getting a few more (real ones) This would make a very nice unique gift giving items...

    Real ones?

    .999 solid silver by Osborne Mint

  • PipestonePete
    PipestonePete Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jwitten said:

    @Paradisefound said:

    @vplite said:
    I got a half dozen as gag gifts. What happens when it is not solid silver (Ha)? Coins will be "not as described" and money refunded?

    They'll ask you to send them back and the airmail cost to China for your 6oz in weight is about $19.
    I just bought a genuine one by Osborne Mint from a US seller for $77. Let see how it compare. I'll test it and share the pix.

    Unless it's different with an overseas seller, the seller would have to pay return shipping if it is not as described. It would cost more than the item is worth, so they would probably just give you a refund and tell you to keep them.

  • Desert Moon
    Desert Moon Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Of note in the listing:

    Shipping and handling
    Item location: Yiwu, China
    Shipping to: Worldwide
    Excludes: Central America and Caribbean, Albania, Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, San Marino, Serbia, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, Vatican City State, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Taiwan, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela, Bermuda, Greenland, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Algeria, Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Cape Verde Islands, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Congo, Democratic Republic of the, Congo, Republic of the, Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon Republic, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mali, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mayotte, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Reunion, Rwanda, Saint Helena, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Swaziland, Tanzania, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Western Sahara, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Bahrain, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Qatar, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan Republic, Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, Georgia, India, Nepal, American Samoa, Cook Islands, Fiji, French Polynesia, Guam, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, New Caledonia, Niue, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Wallis and Futuna, Western Samoa

    That is about 125 countries they don't ship to. Not many left.........

    My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
  • BigA
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    Iceland? Vatican City?

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Paradisefound said:

    @BigA said:

    I'm thinking abut getting a few more (real ones) This would make a very nice unique gift giving items...

    Real ones?

    .999 solid silver by Osborne Mint

    Those pics are the same as the 99 cent ones..capsule, edge numbers, cert

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    My Bitcoin left Shanghai and are in Frankfurt...shocked that tracking works

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Why would anyone even look at these???!!!

  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DIMEMAN said:
    Why would anyone even look at these???!!!

    Novelty item at best. Ya gotta know it NOT .999 silver. Cute though

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    @crazyhounddog said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Why would anyone even look at these???!!!

    Novelty item at best. Ya gotta know it NOT .999 silver. Cute though

    Exactly....I have bought dumber things in my life. I am not buying them as an investment for the future.

  • mustangmanbob
    mustangmanbob Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So, the smart people here on this board buy the "pure silver" ones for 99 cents each, free shipping, file an SNAD against the seller, get there 99 cents back, and the seller has a total loss.

    This wipes out 2% of their sales, on an item with a 43 cents per item profit, so they are still WAY ahead.

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BigA said:

    @Paradisefound said:

    @BigA said:

    I'm thinking abut getting a few more (real ones) This would make a very nice unique gift giving items...

    Real ones?

    .999 solid silver by Osborne Mint

    Those pics are the same as the 99 cent ones..capsule, edge numbers, cert

    Yes, they copied US seller's pictures and detail description as well.....

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bought 5 of those cheap China ones and April 1st is rapidly approaching. I think I'll freak a few people out!!
    Should be fun.

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    Mine made it to JFK from Frankfurt on Saturday...DHL said tracking "would now discontinue"....

  • JeffersonFrog
    JeffersonFrog Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2018 11:07AM
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    yes

    If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.

    Tommy

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    Mine came today also...Definitely feels like plastic but with some weight and a great novelty item.

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD
    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ...mine came today also...they say fine copper on them instead of fine silver...time to get the blow torch out ;)

  • Kkathyl
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    Verdict in you decide

    Best place to buy !
    Bronze Associate member

  • Kkathyl
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    Best place to buy !
    Bronze Associate member

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:
    ...mine came today also...they say fine copper on them instead of fine silver...time to get the blow torch out ;)

    Didn't even notice that!

  • cbraswell3000
    cbraswell3000 Posts: 6 ✭
    edited January 22, 2018 10:26AM
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    So i stumbled across this thread, as i too came across this "silver coin" on EBay. at .99 each. My greed got the best of me. i ordered 100 of them and have tracking confirmation that they are on their way. Id like to know, being that they were misrepresented clearly, using fake pics (that say .999 solid silver NOT .999 solid copper) what will i need to do thru EBay to get my money back. i have NO intentions on paying to have them returned.
    Do we even know if they are metal or plastic?

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    If they are SNAD then the seller has to pay for return postage as per Ebay guarantee...my "coins" said .999 copper as opposed to the .999 silver stated and shown on the auction page. I did start a return request and asked for the seller to provide me with a return postage paid label. I doubt that will happen but we will see.
    They have until the 26th to respond.

    I do actually want to keep a few of the 10 i ordered....and...I even doubt that they are plated copper but have no clue.

  • BobSav
    BobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭
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    My 5 bitcoins came today B)B) ....
    Not bad quality coin, good conversation piece to carry around and mess with your friends and acquaintance's.
    Still amazes me they can send 5 of these with plastic case from China to USA for $3.95
    Bob

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    Lordmarcovan, WTCG, YogiBerraFan, Phoenin21, LindeDad, Coll3ctor, blue594, robkoll, Mike Dixon, BloodMan, Flakthat and others.
  • cbraswell3000
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    @BobSav said:
    My 5 bitcoins came today B)B) ....
    Not bad quality coin, good conversation piece to carry around and mess with your friends and acquaintance's.
    Still amazes me they can send 5 of these with plastic case from China to USA for $3.95
    Bob

    so is it a metal coin or plastic? any metals guys out there that can get to the bottom of what they really are? i have 100 of them on the way. i play poker and looking to sell them to my crypto-buying buddies as card protectors

  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @cbraswell3000 said:

    @BobSav said:
    My 5 bitcoins came today B)B) ....
    Not bad quality coin, good conversation piece to carry around and mess with your friends and acquaintance's.
    Still amazes me they can send 5 of these with plastic case from China to USA for $3.95
    Bob

    so is it a metal coin or plastic? any metals guys out there that can get to the bottom of what they really are? i have 100 of them on the way. i play poker and looking to sell them to my crypto-buying buddies as card protectors

    They feel hefty, so I would say they are at least metal of some sort. I only ordered 5, and I figured they would not be silver, BUT they were advertised as silver, so I am still leaning on filing a dispute as well. Sellers should not be able to deceive like this even if the deal was still decent.

  • BigA
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    Bluff 'em...file and see what happens. I bet you (we) get our money refunded...but if not we still have some novelty items.

  • BobSav
    BobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭
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    They are metal I don't know how anyone could think they are plastic.
    Bob

    Past transactions with:
    Lordmarcovan, WTCG, YogiBerraFan, Phoenin21, LindeDad, Coll3ctor, blue594, robkoll, Mike Dixon, BloodMan, Flakthat and others.
  • GRANDAM
    GRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mine have not arrived yet,,,,, ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

    GrandAm :)
  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BobSav said:
    They are metal I don't know how anyone could think they are plastic.
    Bob

    The shipping label says something about plastic, probably just to get around customs without issues. If you have not seen or felt them in hand yet, that is why there was confusion.

  • GRANDAM
    GRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    How do they look? Do they look like cheap fakes or are they close to the real ones?

    GrandAm :)
  • jwitten
    jwitten Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @GRANDAM said:
    How do they look? Do they look like cheap fakes or are they close to the real ones?

    What do you consider the real thing? It looks exactly like the silver plated copper version found on ebay, as that is what it is. Also, I noticed they changed the title of the listing to "silver plated" now, but the pictures still show the .999 silver ones.

  • GRANDAM
    GRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bought a real one on eBay also, will compare when both arrive.

    GrandAm :)
  • bsshog40
    bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jwitten said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    How do they look? Do they look like cheap fakes or are they close to the real ones?

    What do you consider the real thing? It looks exactly like the silver plated copper version found on ebay, as that is what it is. Also, I noticed they changed the title of the listing to "silver plated" now, but the pictures still show the .999 silver ones.

    This is what is strange to me also. I ordered 6 with my measley ebay $6 I had. Nothing to lose. Lol Of course the auction showed a coin with .999 silver and the title stated they were silver. What I don't understand now is how the seller can change his title to silver plated after a purchase is made. How can ebay let someone get away with changing descriptions and titles after purchases are made? I'm gonna keep mine as they are kind of cool, worthless, but cool. Lol

  • GRANDAM
    GRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This is strange also,,,,,, auction is now $0.99 with a best offer option.

    If you make a best offer it must be MORE than $0.99,,,,,, what's up with that?

    Make Offer
    Your Offer :
    $per item
    Please enter a price of US $ 0.99 or more .
    Quantity :more than 10 available
    Add message to seller
    Review Offer
    Buy It Now:$0.99

    GrandAm :)
  • Batman23
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    @bsshog40 said:
    This is what is strange to me also. I ordered 6 with my measley ebay $6 I had. Nothing to lose. Lol Of course the auction showed a coin with .999 silver and the title stated they were silver. What I don't understand now is how the seller can change his title to silver plated after a purchase is made. How can ebay let someone get away with changing descriptions and titles after purchases are made? I'm gonna keep mine as they are kind of cool, worthless, but cool. Lol

    I too ordered 6 of the solid silver version which now show silver plated iron. Seems odd that they are allowed to switch out the title on already purchased and shipped coins. The description still states solid silver though. Note: I did not really expect to get solid silver coins.

    I also ordered 2 of the solid copper version at the same time and I also ordered 2 of the solid gold version at the same time. I am expecting the solid gold ones to be as advertised ;)

    Both of the copper and gold talk about "color" and plating.

    Guess I'll see what I get when they arrive. I have wasted $10 on much worse.

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
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    Yup, seller changed the title but not the description, This is from my order page..NOT the same as when I ordered

    Bitcoin Silver Plated Commemorative Bitcoin Collectible Iron Coin

    ..and:

    VERY RARE, PURE .999 SILVER-----BEWARE OTHER SELLERS ARE SELLING SILVER PLATE

    ...and the coin says .999 copper instead of the pictured .999 silver

    https://ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin-Silver-Plated-Commemorative-Bitcoin-Collectible-Iron-Coin/362197944101?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

  • BobSav
    BobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭
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    Regardless of what the ad said, did anybody here really think they were going to get 1oz of silver for 99 cents.
    If so I have some swamp er I mean development land in Florida for sale.
    Bob

    Past transactions with:
    Lordmarcovan, WTCG, YogiBerraFan, Phoenin21, LindeDad, Coll3ctor, blue594, robkoll, Mike Dixon, BloodMan, Flakthat and others.
  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2018 8:34AM
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    Never assumed I was getting silver BUT:

    .. the plated one in the auction says .999 silver and the one I got says .999 copper.
    ...The auction for one I bought had a limited edition number on the edge..the one I got does not.
    ...The auction picture shows a COA...no COA received
    ...the seller has since changed the title on still existing auction to say silver plated iron coin while the auction still says pure .999 silver and the coin says .999 copper

    Kinda paints a SNAD to me anyway. I thought what i would get would be the coin as pictured...I did not receive anything like it at all

    It's not the silver issue ....that was known

  • rlawsha
    rlawsha Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭
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    Got mine - and yes they say copper
    Although they are worth the 99 cents I paid I filed a complaint because of the misleading listing

  • BigA
    BigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2018 10:04AM
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    Exactly...and I really doubt there will be a response from the seller

  • vplite
    vplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭
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    Did anyone really think they were getting an ounce of silver for $.99? No, not if they had enough brains to operate a computer.

    Mine seem to iron covered with a silver -colored plating, since a magnet attracts them.

    I knew they were phony - I bought 5 as gag gifts.

    I guess many (see his recent feedback) feel the need to "punish" this seller since the item is clearly not as described, but this seems kind of snarky and hypocritical since buyers had to know the sale was for fakes.

    The Golden Rule: Those with the gold make the rules.

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