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Hazy Franklin Proof
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Can conservation save it? Most concerned about the brown spots.
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I believe the haze can be removed, however, the brown spots, if removed, may leave evidence of their presence. Not sure of that, but past experience with similar conditions indicates you may not be happy with the final result. Of course, the conservation experts are likely more advanced now... you could try to send it in for an opinion prior to action.... Good luck, Cheers, RickO
Hard to tell from the photos. My original thought was the spots on the bust and behind the bust would dip off and were potentially a result of a prior dip not being rinsed well. But the spot in TRUST concerns me, I'm not sure that would come off with a conventional dip...I'm thinking not.
What grade holder is it in? i'm guessing 66 CAM...if higher, I'd think the spots weren't there initially and would be more likely to come off.
I think sending it for conservation might be helpful for the haze but the spotting sort of looks like "milk-spots" to me and nothing will get rid of them.
It looks terrible now so you really have nothing to lose by trying.
Set it gently in pure acetone for an hour. (I like a shot glass). Rinse really well with warm water for a couple minutes. Set on a nice paper restaurant napkin with no pattern. PAT dry. Don't rub on it in any way.
@ModCrewman asked: "What grade holder is it in?"
What's the big secret @BG ? That might shed light on this: "I'd think the spots weren't there initially and would be more likely to come off."
@Insider2 You asking me or the OP?
Only the OP can answer. It better not be in a 66 slab! See edit...
Your post and my edit crossed.
A lot of this comes from stuff like this that is "enhanced" before slabbing, with the result showing up later. (I'm not necessarily talking about the OP coin, but in general).
Pete
Just dip it and rinse it very well and be done with it.
No secrets. Just a question.
Then I'd think they'd dip off. no way it'd have gotten into a 68CAM holder with those spots. But honestly, I think I'd just sell it and buy another as even after a dip it'll be a struggle to get it back into that holder IMHO.
I agree with @ModCrewman , no way that gets into an 8cam holder with those spots. I also presume the hairlines at 9 o'clock are on the holder and not on the coin.
Based on the two photos, I have a hard time with any upside other than it looking fresher. I don't think the reverse would carry it to dcam if cleaned up.
If it were mine, I'd leave it in the old green holder.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Here is my '57 in 7dcam for comparison.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
** no way that gets into an 8cam holder with those spots**
perhaps not, but considering the insert and the timeframe it represents I will say it is possible.
My 66 DCAM:
Disagree 100%. Standards were a lot tighter back then. I have several Proof Franklins in PR-64, PR-65, and PR-65 CAM that make the OP's coin look like a PR-62. Each of my coins was slabbed around 1987 and I was told by a TPGS grader at the FUN Show that they would be graded MS-67 to 68 FOR SURE today!
Haze is God's way of protecting the delicate mirrored surfaces of proofs. I'd leave well enough be.
Some like attractive haze, some don't. Some hate all haze and wish the coin looked as fresh as the day it was struck.
When "haze" starts to destroy a coin's surface it is best removed. If caught in time and removed correctly, no one except its owner will know.
generation 3.1. 1993-1998, which included some time when things were a bit loose. not really debatable, but laugh if you must.