Will all type of coins be melted in the event of Nuclear or Missile explosions? Chance to save them?
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During the now known false Missile Alert in Hawaii; my Mom asked me "how about your gold coins"? as we all hurdled into the tub; our bird in his cage included.
We told her that if we gonna be gone...nothing would matter anyway.
Is there a safe place for coin safety if anything?
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just incase some of members not aware...
Crazy days, go enjoy the ocean .....
If you are within 1 mile of the 16 kiloton hypocenter, nothing survives, not even gold coins in a bunker. Note: by todays standards, a 16 kiloton explosion is a rather puny atomic bomb.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
223 miles distance from Kauai to Maui
If you think that NK would lob a nuke at Hawaii and have any chance of hitting it''s target you are sadly mistaken. Those islands are super small targets and based on his testing so far, they have not mastered hitting their targets.
Hell, they have not even proven that a nuke would survive re-entry, or that they can even put one on the top of an ICBM yet. Having a nuke and being able to deliver it by missile are two different things. Oh, just don't worry about it. If it were launched the likelihood that it would get anywhere near Hawaii before being intercepted and destroyed are extremely small.
bob
As I understand, their aim is not too good, so your odds of getting hit are the same as the actual target. In 22,000 years, your radioactive melted gold bullion (formerly coins) will be able to be redeemed.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
If the coins were inside the radius of the initia fireball they probably wouldn’t do well but it’s going to depend on what they’re in. Coins in a slab in a box in your closet might not suffer that much if you could find them. Damage outside the fireball is going to be caused by a variety of factors but the large scale devastation is from the overpressure shock wave - which isn’t going to do much to a coin. Of course they may not survive a firestorm due to busted gas mains and no water.
I may coat all my coins in resin. Keeps them shiny and safe from fallout germs.
Sure, your gold coins will melt but you’ll still be left with a trickle of gold to recover.
This........! Exactly why I stick with bullion and not high dollar collectable coins. An ounce of gold is still an ounce of gold....regardless if its a coin, bar or melted trickle.
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I think we should all be more worried about economic collapse and the consequences. I think those odds are higher. Just my opinion.
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Maybe neutron capture and beta decay will turn all the gold into mercury, silver into cadmium and copper into zinc.
Then again the fact that NK has a fission bomb and may have a fusion bomb and the fact that they have ICBMs, doesn't mean that they have mastered the ability to reduce the size of their bombs enough to mount them on a missle.
Building a (physically) large nuclear bomb is significantly easier than making one small enough to mount on a missle.
Eventually the sun is going red giant and everything from it to the orbit of Neptune will melt.
Easy answer is trade your gold in for platinum. Platinum melt temp is 3,215 F vs 1,948 F on wimpy gold. Plus you will be$340 an ounce to the good!
You have a better chance to be struck by lightning than you do making an albatross. Thought I'd throw that out there.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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Coins would be the last thing on my mind !
At that time, being an Asymptotic Giant Branch star, the S-process will definitely cause nuclear transformation.
More likely a couple of 2 x 4's
Now, now, WELL before that event, say roughly a billion years from now as opposed to four billion years, the Milky Way galaxy and the Andromeda galaxy will collide. The Earth may potentially be flung out of the solar system then, courtesy of a REASONABLY close encounter with another star or a black hole.
If you are worried about real life threatening damage in Hawaii, I suggest looking at some Spam slices frying in oil on some restaurant's cooktop griddle.
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I remember having a bumper sticker on my 1962 Buick Special... Better Active Today Than Radioactive Tomorrow. So the more things change, the more they stay the same.
I suppose it all depends on several factors
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
They have been burying hoards for years.
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So, planning for the long term, looks like Pluto would be the best place to store my coins for picking up later. But I bet the shipping charges are out of this world.
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Go back an look at MY posts and contemplate the fact that, many moons ago, I was one of 6 people that had access to the release codes for 7 tactical nuclear warheads in Germany.
You will not sleep for a week.
Nuke 'em til they glow and light the road to Moscow with them.
One would hope that that far in the future shipping charges will have declined.
Actually, when our Sun reaches the red giant stage it's diameter MAY include the orbit of Earth (probably not). Mars will be hot but still there. Probably the prime place for real estate in the solar system will be the moons of Jupiter (barring the radiation from Jupiter's radiation belts). Remember, Jupiter is basically 5 times the distance away from the Sun as the Earth currently is, so even if the Sun's diameter reaches the Earth's current orbit, Jupiter would still be 4 times further away from the Sun than the Earth currently is. A couple of the moon's of Jupiter might be ocean worlds for several hundred million years in that case.
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I will not concern myself with fears of the sun going red giant or the idiot twerp in NK launching a missile.... Like most people, I have real issues to deal with - life happens. The fate of my coins in a nuclear situation is not even on my list...now, that being said, I have lead lined suits for my dogs and cats...
Cheers, RickO
all good except the interception part. The US can't reliably intercept an icbm unless they shoot it themselves and know exactly where and when it will arrive.
Not so sure on that. In the 50's and 60's we did it routinely with the Nike missile. Why we can't do it now would be a big surprise. I'm not up on the shooting down of an ICBM but do understand that we have missiles that are designed to do just that. If they don't work, well, glad Hawaii is a super small target @bronco2078.
bob
I would think CA is a bigger target in so many ways (no punt intended)
It is impressive how many people endured the years of the fear of nuclear attack in the 50s and 60s, with drills, etc.. The Tsar was a pretty impressive bomb....Hobbies were a good diversion, now if the satellites were knocked out people would go nuts without their gadgets.
I think the missles that are going to shoot down ICBMs are slightly less reliable than the latest internet connected refrigerator.
If they even exist they are most likely made by the same folks that are trying to get the F35 fighter to fly after spending a trillion dollars on it and hows that working out for us taxpayers ?
The Nike missles had nuclear warheads so you didn't have to actually hit with them. I've been hiking to some old Nike sites around Boston, pretty neat to sit up there and imagine how wonderful they would have worked , setting off a half a dozen nukes over the city in order to "save" it
With all the disasters seen this year, you have to wonder how many coin collections have been lost or destroyed...?
WS
unless our Uncle is hiding test information from the public, we are no closer to reliably being able to shoot down an incoming warhead than the Koreans are to being able to launch and re-enter a warhead. in the event it were to happen and you were close enough to ground zero, you and your gold would be vaporized. forget about melted gold and forget about surviving.
what a cheerful topic.
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I'm a bit more sympathetic to the panic felt by Collectors of Rare POGS. Aĺl those Original Passion-Orange-Guava Cap Collections....... in horrible danger !
Isn't interception after it's been launched for while somewhat difficult?
Try telling that to a buyer when you try to sell him/her a one once gold eagle that has a scratch on it.
PCGS boxes lined with lead.
Hey if it was good enough for Superman than it's good enough for me.
Bob
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Seriously? There's a nuclear warhead heading for you and your worried about whether your COINS will survive?
simple fact: anything hot enough to melt your coins is hot enough to melt you.
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Dude needs to contact Micheal Bay about explosion animations...
Well, the Defense Department in November said that we have them in place and ready to go.
"It’s been a monumental year for the GMD system as it went up against an ICBM-class target for the first time in a May test, completely obliterating the threat. (U.S. Missile Defense Agency)
WASHINGTON — The final ground-based interceptor for the Ground-based Midcourse Defense system — designed to protect the homeland from intercontinental ballistic missiles threats from North Korea and Iran — is now in place at Fort Greely, Alaska, the U.S. Missile Defense Agency has confirmed."
If there is a for-real ICBM launch from Asia or anywhere else, we won't just launch one interceptor like in the tests... we'll launch dozens of them per inbound threat. Only one needs to do the actual intercepting. I'm a little uneasy that experts are projecting confidence by stating that it will "probably work."
After working in the US government all my life I have the utmost faith in their capability to protect us..
Bob
Where did my father hide the key to the bomb shelter we built back in the 1960'S ???????
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