Wrinkling or stretch marks on a coin

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What causes a modern clad coin to have stretch marks or wrinkling across surface?

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  • TommyType
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    Hard to say exactly what you mean without a picture, but for what I THINK you mean: A worn die is usually the explanation. Over time, the movement of metal-against-metal causes creases in the die that are transferred onto subsequent coins struck.

    Often, particularly with large cents, you might hear this called the "Orange Peal" affect.

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • BuffaloIronTail
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    When a die ages, "flow lines" start to appear. The devices start to gravitate towards the rim. Those "flow lines" are what I assume you mean by "wrinkling".

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • TommyType
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    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    When a die ages, "flow lines" start to appear. The devices start to gravitate towards the rim. Those "flow lines" are what I assume you mean by "wrinkling".

    Pete

    LOL....I knew there was a better word than the "wrinking" I used. ;) Flow Lines is the right way to describe it.

    It can be quite dramatic sometimes on Bust Halves, Large Cents, and the like

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  • Jimnight
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    Can you post a photo?

  • grip
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    I've seen it on BH, specially on the stars. Fatigued die?

  • RogerB
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    Pregnancy?

    Can you post a photo of what you're describing?

  • ms70
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    I can only imaging he's talking about the flow lines.

    Best definition I could find:

    Microscopic striations in a coin's surface caused by the movement of metal under striking pressures.

    https://en.mimi.hu/numismatic/flow_lines.html

  • ricko
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    @Gunnr88 .... Welcome aboard.... without a picture to be certain, the above explanations are reasonable, and likely accurate. Cheers, RickO

  • BuffaloIronTail
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    Think of Stretch Marks..........and you'll get the idea ;)

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • JRocco
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    @Kkathyl said:
    I actual like the Flow lines on some older coins, It give character.

    I agree Kathy


    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • grip
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    Stars.

  • JBK
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    In the 1980s on nickels in particular, die erosion showed as an "orange peel" effect.

  • Treashunt
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    @Gunnr88 said:
    What causes a modern clad coin to have stretch marks or wrinkling across surface?

    old age, like people

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • TommyType
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    @Treashunt said:

    @Gunnr88 said:
    What causes a modern clad coin to have stretch marks or wrinkling across surface?

    old age, like people

    I resemble that remark....

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TommyType said:

    @Treashunt said:

    @Gunnr88 said:
    What causes a modern clad coin to have stretch marks or wrinkling across surface?

    old age, like people

    I resemble that remark....

    as do many of us.

    :)

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • BLUEJAYWAY
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    @TommyType said:

    @Treashunt said:

    @Gunnr88 said:
    What causes a modern clad coin to have stretch marks or wrinkling across surface?

    old age, like people

    I resemble that remark....

    Or, I resemble that "stretch" remark....

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • BackroadJunkie
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    I here I thought this was a thread on the upcoming breastie commemorative... :D

  • Gunnr88
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    after some research, it seems to be Very Late Die Strike.

  • coinkat
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    Grip

    Not sure about this one. I would like to see in hand.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • Gunnr88
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    after some research, it seems to be Very Late Die Strike.

  • Gunnr88
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    There was also a clash of Roosevelt's head onto the reverse

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