Guess The Grade

jfkheat · December 20, 2017 10:15AM

I just received this card today. What do you think the current grade is? I plan to send it into PSA for crossover. What do you think PSA will grade it as? It is BVG graded now with the sub-grades. Any scratches or smudges you see are on the case not the card.
James

LarkinCollector · December 20, 2017 10:25AM

3.5 (eventually), 3 on first try.

jfkheat · December 20, 2017 10:45AM

The mark/smudge or whatever it is to the left of Willie's face is on the slab. There are no creases on the card. The BVG grade for Surface is 8.5.
James

Dpeck100 · December 20, 2017 10:54AM

What is the line by his arm? Is that part of the image every time?

jfkheat · December 20, 2017 11:00AM

I'm not sure what line you are referring to. If it is this then it is a mark on the slab.

LarkinCollector · December 20, 2017 11:01AM

@Dpeck100 said:
What is the line by his arm? Is that part of the image every time?

That's what I though was a crease. Looked like it goes though the green on the back as well.

LarkinCollector · December 20, 2017 11:02AM

@jfkheat said:
The mark/smudge or whatever it is to the left of Willie's face is on the slab. There are no creases on the card. The BVG grade for Surface is 8.5.
James

Conservatively, I'd guess a 7 then.

jfkheat · December 20, 2017 11:04AM

In looking at the card and slab in hand, what looks like creases on the scan are where the mylar sleeve is touching the plastic slab.
James

divecchia · December 20, 2017 11:08AM

James,

I'm thinking maybe a PSA 8.

Good luck with it.

Donato

Dand522612 · December 20, 2017 11:10AM

9

MrHockey · December 20, 2017 11:14AM

7

Dpeck100 · December 20, 2017 11:16AM

Baring any downgrade for MIN SIZE or Trimming I don't see how it doesn't grade an 8.

JBrules · December 20, 2017 11:19AM

Looks like a solid 8 to me. Good luck.

secretstash · December 20, 2017 11:51AM

Nice PSA 8 imo. My guess is this is in a BVG case way too low for the appearance in which they harshly graded centering due to a slight slight tilt or elsewise? I will say BVG 6. I think PSA will treat this card very differently if it measures correctly.

originalisbest · December 20, 2017 12:50PM

Assuming PSA has no problem with min size or the cut, then it's an easy 8 or 8.5, IMO.

handyman · December 20, 2017 1:24PM

NG trimmed left and top edge.

KbKards · December 20, 2017 1:29PM

If you're able to return the card for a refund now it will save you a good bit of time, money and grief if you're beyond the return period by the time it comes back.

coinspacks · December 20, 2017 1:45PM

I go with 8 unless they think it's minsize

brad31 · December 20, 2017 4:33PM

8.5

Dpeck100 · December 20, 2017 5:12PM

I yield to KbKards.

Whomever that is hasn't been wrong yet.

jay0791 · December 20, 2017 6:15PM

I think its trimmed also

jfkheat · December 20, 2017 8:04PM

Thank you all for the guesses and comments. The card is graded BVG 8.5. It is going to PSA tomorrow as a crossover with minimum requested grade of PSA 8. I do not believe it is trimmed. I checked it against other 56 Topps cards.
James

secretstash · December 20, 2017 9:27PM

I would crack it. The smudges and scratching if it cannot be removed, along with the corner grade (which I believe is harsh for BVG). I think it could work, but I think your chances are better diving in and taking the risk if it truly measures.

originalisbest · January 3, 2018 1:54PM

I would agree with secretstash -- really don't see anything to dislike about the card. The two long edges seem to have a weird bevel, but I feel as though that's either as made, or the very thick BVG holder plus scan might be distorting things. If it measures well as far as you can tell through that holder, I'd crack and submit. Good luck!

markj111 · January 5, 2018 11:11AM

First reaction is 3.5. Looks like its creased. Good luckj with it.

tbonewilly · January 6, 2018 8:57AM

I would leave it in this holder, unless PSA will remove the mylar when it crosses over to PSA 8 or higher. Would hate to see that mylar in a PSA holder....But that is a beauty of a card!

jfkheat · January 6, 2018 11:53AM

PSA has had the card for a week but it hasn't been logged in yet. I'll post results when I get them.
James

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