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The bad part of being a West coast dealer (or collector but not so much)

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

Is the absolute near vacuum of the type of historical relics that originated in the more early days of the US.

I....NEVER ..... had any neat colonials (or even large cents) come in the shop.

You guys on the East coast (E of the Rockies ;) ) get to see the older and better stuff.
Even the MORGANS that came in were from low budget ...accumulators... and it was even rare to see a real GEM Morgan. (Some did show up in rolls)

I can't even imagine someone bringing in a family heirloom that had some real history behind it.

Collectors out here are in a bit better position because they can order whatever they want when they want it. Although it's a ....bit... of an advantage to get to see some cool new purchases by a local dealer.

Hmmm....what's my point?
Oops.

Oh.... Early coins are rarer on the West coast.

There.

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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I once briefly considered getting a metal detector, and trying my luck in my California neighborhood.

    Then I realized that my neighborhood was scraped out of a hill that used to stand there, and had probably stood there since before the dawn of the forging of metal by man.

    The East Coast has all of the 200 year old houses and dirt, too! Damn you!! ;)

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same with the Antiques Roadshow. Coolest really old stuff tends to be on the West Coast.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oops, East Coast.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "slugs" I find aren't gold. :'(
    Bug-Geta seems to get rid of them though.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My shop is in PA and you are not alone in not seeing great collections.
    In 10 as a full time I only purchased one collection. I have seen one or two but they were not ready to sell and haven't still haven't . The big companies with connection are getting these collections.

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭

    Look on the bright side, you have all the CC and S minted coins down the street.

    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the reasons why I never really gravitated to the San Francisco, Carson City or Denver product... such contemporary stuff. ;)

    'dude

    Got Crust....y gold?
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll agree that Colonials are tuff to find
    out here, but the "S" mint coins that
    pop up, (over the past many decades)
    is impressive (not collections per se,
    but single coins walking into coin shops
    or coin shows).

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The best part about being a West Coast Dealer is that we live on the West Coast.

    I live on the west coast and I bought a goldbug metal detect to find gold nuggets and not a relic detector.

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some east coast collections still go to small dealers who can't spell IRS. Some of the old timey dealers in this area made their fortunes like that.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There must be some real treasures in this area then... settled in the 1600's, old buildings etc., and not a coin dealer in miles and miles.... Would love to get into some of these old house attics or basements... Got to be some good stuff stowed away. Cheers, RickO

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack... Right... and there are no shows... so the only place I can ask about such things are antique shops, and they are pretty tight lipped...Cheers, RickO

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For us kids growing up in California, it was frustrating that we could only find the S-mint cents for our folders. Where were all the "common" plain ones? :smile:

    As for interesting old coins walking in the door - Manny Acosta finding the 1795 Overton 132 comes to mind.

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ricko, in that area, you just know there are some buried stashes, but likely no one would let you search for them. There are many rumors of those in this area, but if they are found, they likely just disappear.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still and all, I can recall only maybe 3 "special" coins just "showing up" over 25 years in the shop.

    The only memorable CC entry was a roll of "BU" :s:s 1878 CC dollars.
    There may not exist a more bagged up roll than this one was. WAS as I sold it as fast as possible.

  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I live on the West Coast and can confirm this in general.

    Fan of the Oxford Comma
    CCAC Representative of the General Public
    2021 Young Numismatist of the Year

  • KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am on the west coast too, and I don't see many rare coins. I remember a fellow collector showing me a Charolette gold Five he snagged out of the local shop years ago.

    Maybe with the internet, scarce coins may pop up locally if there are still shops with the open sign on

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kccoin said:
    I am on the west coast too, and I don't see many rare coins. I remember a fellow collector showing me a Charolette gold Five he snagged out of the local shop years ago.

    Maybe with the internet, scarce coins may pop up locally if there are still shops with the open sign on

    Oh WAIT! That just reminded me. I got in a Moffat $5 once that a guy dug out of his yard.

    Where do you think his shovel bit deeply in to the extent that it even BENT the coin?

    :'(

  • KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ouch! Square on liberty's cheek?

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    right
    down
    the
    middle.

    ow.
    :|

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It may be even worse in the Denver area, as old SF mint coinage is not as commo in the Rockies as it iz on fhe left coast. Oldest Denver coins are about 110 years old.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2017 2:52AM

    In Detroit, Canadian coins were all over the place. Mostly traded at par until an angry customer rebelled.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In fly over country, we get the worst of both coasts.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bad part about being a west coast dealer is we need to get up super early to go fishing in the Pacific Ocean just like Today!!!

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,707 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    In fly over country, we get the worst of both coasts.

    I've seen a lotta great stuff come out of the Mississippi River area in recent years. Scotsman just auctioned off some insane collection some guy had been building since the 1930's, for example.

    I was being facetious as Aubrey Beebee, Hewitt Judd, Byron Reed and others (as mentioned) , are just a few notables in, around, or from my hometown. I think great coins find their way to great collectors and dealers find their way to the coast ...or more importantly; have long been established there. It’s really not geographic As much as demographic.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And don't forget about the WEST COAST settlers.

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