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Trial Strike or Thin Planchet -- Pulled from 1954 Cent Roll

fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭

Without a scale is there a way to guess if this is a thin planchet, or trial strike. You comments welcome. Also, is this something error collectors like, or is it just another wheat cent?

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. Tapered planchet?

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its a cool find and I would keep it. My guess a flawed planchet but I'm no error expert.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Without a scale you can see if it balances with a normal pre-1982 cent. You can use something like a Popsicle stick with the cents on each end.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Interesting. Tapered planchet?

    Appears so. Probably from the end of a strip.

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  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fcloud said:
    Without a scale is there a way to guess if this is a thin planchet, or trial strike. You comments welcome. Also, is this something error collectors like, or is it just another wheat cent?

    Very cool find :#

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 19, 2017 1:55PM

    Maybe grease if the weight checks out, planchet if under. 30-40$ in a holder although it will cost you that to get it in one

  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:
    Without a scale you can see if it balances with a normal pre-1982 cent. You can use something like a Popsicle stick with the cents on each end.

    No question lighter and looking at it more carefully -- its thinner.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 10,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that we are waiting on Fred to chime in.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe Fee316 will let us know what it actually is.

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  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is an underweight coin, more precisely - struck on a tapered planchet.

    @Crypto said:
    Maybe grease if the weight checks out, planchet if under. 30-40$ in a holder although it will cost you that to get it in one

    This coin could not have been struck through grease. That would leave a full formed design rim. The design rim is nearly absent on this coin. A weak strike would be more probable, but it would have a more even strike, than what is present here.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden said:
    I think that we are waiting on Fred to chime in.

    JBK had it right.

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why so many marks in the weakly struck areas?

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Overdate said:
    Why so many marks in the weakly struck areas?

    Very common for planchets to get banged up a bit tumbling in the annealing ovens and other mint equipment. Most such marks get flattened out during the strike, but with a thin planchet you don't get enough pressure to flatten them out.

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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cameonut said:
    Maybe Fee316 will let us know what it actually is.

    In which case it would be deep in the AM and the bottle would have just a swirl left in it and Lincolns face would start transforming into letters and numbers beyond our small minds comprehension.

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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the comments. I guess tapered planchet is the call here.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good morning – I’m still at home – as mentioned it’s a rolled thin or tapered thin
    Planchet. Probably weighs 2.5 g – give or take – a better than average example Imo

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat find for the 'education folder'....I would not slab it, but definitely keep it with the appropriate notations. Cheers, RickO

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Neat find!

    ----- kj
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice and RD as well I would have it put in a holder. B)



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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for all the help and comments.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

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