Whoever said there is no Santa Claus in Numismatics was wrong!
Broadstruck
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Okay I won't argue with your pricing as it makes perfect sense to me 
So I bought the example on the Left for 1/2 the price of the one on the Right and the seller shipped it.
ANACS wrongly attributed both as they are Canadian tokens struck in America, not British.
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great finds
BHNC #203
I have found ANACS to be completely clueless for the past 5 years on copper. Crack that baby out as soon as it arrives. I'm this case it will probably ADD value having it out of the slab.
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"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I guess they just glanced at the obverse shield and felt it's British?
Ever see a spread eagle on anything struck in the UK back then?
Better watch what you post, according to many folks here, ANACS is the third best major grading service.
ANACS was good prior to the Yellow labels.... ICG has been numero 3 since.
ANACS has been a training ground for many of the top authenticators in the business and a couple are still there. I cannot speak for our host but the other three have "new" folks in training. Besides, I don't think anyone on this forum has never made a silly mistake. Thank goodness for "label errors."
@DCW said: "I have found ANACS to be completely clueless for the past 5 years on copper. Crack that baby out as soon as it arrives. I'm this case it will probably ADD value having it out of the slab."
According to the copper collectors and the EAC, all the TPGS are clueless with regard to copper coins.
Send it in for a bean and see what happens!
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
In numismatists, there is a Santa Claus or possibly Robin Hood or Reagan Hood for those that appreciate cartoonist Paul Conrad... In any event, very astute observation and it is the search and knowledge that helps with the visits from Santa or whoever...
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I have notified Paul DeFelice and sent him a link to this thread. Simply contact him at ANACS and we'll fix them. You can also send a PM to @ANACSPaul.
I dunno. I used to use ANACS because they would attribute all the unusual Lincoln cent varieties I was chasing after. Their grading was all over the place. Sometimes in my favor, and sometimes to my detriment. But never consistent. The worst was when I decided to crack a PCGS MS65RD memorial (yea, I really did this) trying to get it into ANACS yellow holder like the rest of the varieties for that year, 1994.
They graded the damned thing AU55 or something to that effect. Way out of whack!
And don't get me started on their photography services! Useless scanner pics, ugh.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I don't fault them for having a hard time with foreign looking coins, I mean how many books do they need??
Look at the guarantees:
In the event the owner of an ANACS-graded coin believes there has been an error in grading, the owner may resubmit the coin to ANACS for re-examination. If the re-examination grade is lower than the grade originally assigned by ANACS, ANACS agrees, at its discretion, to either purchase the coin from the owner at fair market value or pay the owner of the coin the difference between the coins’ fair market value at the re-examination grade and the fair market value at the grade originally assigned by ANACS. ANACS will be the sole determiner for the current fair market value of the coin based on what ANACS believes is reliable current market information. ANACS’ determination of fair market value shall be binding on all parties.
This Guarantee applies only to ANACS-certified platinum, gold and silver coins and excludes bronze, copper and copper-nickel coins as these are delicate materials, easily affected by environmental conditions. This Guarantee does not apply to the following: any coin in a damaged, unsealed, counterfeit or altered ANACS holder; any clerical error(s) as to the description or grade of the coin; any “problem coins” that carry a “detail” and / or a “net” grade; any coin subjected to improper storage conditions such as extreme heat or cold, humidity, moisture, sunlight, etc.; and any coins removed from the ANACS holder. This Guarantee takes the place and supersedes all other or previous guarantees, warranties, either expressed or implied.
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ICG guarantees that all coins submitted to its grading service will be handled with the highest standards of professionalism and integrity. In addition, all U.S. and Foreign coins graded and encapsulated by ICG are guaranteed to be genuine, unless they are encapsulated in the ICG Educational Slab. Any Customer may resubmit any coin for review of the grade assigned by ICG if such Customer believes that such coin has been over-graded by ICG. If the coin submitted for review by the Customer receives a lower grade under ICG’s internal review practices than the grade originally assigned, ICG shall, at ICG’s option, either (a) replace the coin, or (b) pay any difference between the current fair market value of such coin at the newly established grade and the current market value of the grade originally assigned to such coin. The fair market value shall be determined solely by ICG. From time to time, ICG will receive certain Pedigree Coins, Important Rarities, large quantities of coins, bulk submissions, or coins where the identity of the owner has been well publicized or well known throughout the numismatic community. Although ICG may be able to assume the identity of such owners, ICG reserves the right to grade such coins under ICG’s standard practices. http://www.icgcoin.com/about/guarantee/
Thanks but I'm cracking it & keeping it raw.
Yet another very nice Canadian token, Broadstruck. Well done!
you bought that off me and i'm having the shipment stopped!
No matter what slab, label or reputation.... buy the coin.... it is, after all, the only thing that really matters.
Cheers, RickO
You say : “ Ho, ho, ho “ nowadays, you could be charged with sexual harassment, Santa.
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BHNC #203
@Broadstruck The OP has a great point. There is every once in a long while a deal you get that is incredible or you "make" a grade at PCGS that brings a windfall, or you are just lucky at auction. In these cases, there is a Santa Claus in Numismatics. For that matter there could be a Santa Claus in other hobbies as well. Most of the time though no. Nice snag!!!
Maybe they were thinking of them as British (North American) tokens
Interesting. Does NGC guarantee their variety attribution? I bought a group of coins recently, and didn't examine them as closely as I should have for this one subtle nuance so I trusted the label and missed it.