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Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

Thought I had a "gem" York half dollar until I looked using florescent light at 12X! Hint: It is still a "gem" MS-65 but...

No image of the rest of the coin and no complaints about the color balance as this is the best color to see "IT." :p
This is too easy once you see it so no prize this time. :)

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017 1:27PM

    Comon, there are no wrong answers and no one can be sure of anything in a bad photo of 10% of one side of a coin! :D:D:D>:):p Take a guess. One member already guessed correctly in a PM!

    Guessing is how we all learn!

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017 1:31PM

    The rim lamination? The clash marks?
    And/or is there some type of "fiber" present?

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Clashed die, and a lamination?

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017 1:39PM

    It's upside down? Someone painted it green?

    As others have said, maybe some clashing and lamination.

    For sure there aren't any man-made dots. Also, doesn't look like there's any luster. ;)

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "I see trees of green, red roses too
    I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself what a wonderful world"

    Ahem.....sorry, feeling a little wistful today. ;)

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Close...keep going and I will say what it is in about two hours and PLEASE DON'T GET ANGRY when I post what it is and why some of the answers are incorrect so far! Remember, I have the coin and I am trying to share some of the stuff we may see when others post coins they have found and we try to help them using only a photo. :)

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see anything that detracts value from the coin. There appears to be a lamination and clashing. As everyone has already stated this, it must be something I'm not seeing. At first I thought it might be a double die, but I think not.
    Jim


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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe lacquer. A solvent might take it off.

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like most, I see two "things" that might be your focus:

    1) Squiggly thing in the fields, in two places
    Either:

    • Clashing
    • die crack
    • strike through

    2) Roughness on rim
    Either:

    • Finning/foldover
    • die chip
    • Die crack, soon to become a cud
    • PMD

    I can't choose.

    (Then there are the trees of green......)

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:
    Maybe lacquer. A solvent might take it off.

    Yup!!!.



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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:
    Maybe lacquer. A solvent might take it off.

    Plausible.
    Lance.

  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    some type of material that has dried on the surface.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017 2:34PM

    Die crack :smile:

    Don't laugh as I am here to learn :smile:

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Clash marks from a 1918 Barber quarter ?

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look dots

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  • coin4salecoin4sale Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    the squiggly thing at base of 6 may be a "strike through" of say a little piece of thread, or wire

    BT&C
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017 2:59PM

    OK, this is a silver coin. The lighting I used makes it golden. I did not change the color in order to show the lacquer residue better. This "once-acceptable" surface alteration that keeps coins from oxidizing has fallen out of favor.

    In hand the coin looks great. Fully lustrous w/a tiny tint of egg-shell toning. No red flags yet. As you put a hand lens on a coin, any time you see fibers should alert you that they may be trapped by a residue either PVC, oils, chemical residues that dried or lacquers. If they don't come off, you are dealing with something that made them stick to the coin's surface. That is the case here.

    What you see on the rim is a big blob of lacquer that has not chipped off. It is a darker golden yellow.

    Now for the answers.

    Die Cracks are raised on the coin. Having just the poor image the trail of lacquer on the rim looks raised and squiggly. Good Guess.

    Die Clash. You all know what they are, There is no identical design on the other side of the coin so it cannot be a clash mark!

    Lamination. These usually show an undercut in images or torn up metal. I guess the raised mark on the rim could look like a torn-up area. OK guess.

    Strike Thru's are sunken into the surface. Many of them are fibers so in the poor image the fibers on the surface can look into it. Good guess.

    A soaking in a solvent will restore this coin to perfection.

    PMD and die chips do not look like this.

    Now look again. See how the lacquer buildup on the rim looks like a cud at first?

  • coin4salecoin4sale Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    ...or a fiber stuck in lacquer, after a second look at rim

    BT&C
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So glad it's not a couple of wild hairs.

    bob :)

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was thinking a stain, which wouldn't have been that far off.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,163 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What? Coins used to have lacquer applied to make them more attractive? This was an acceptable practice?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep. Especially copper. It was to keep the coins from turning. BTW, at one time adding details to a worn coin was also done to make them more attractive.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    struck thru a thread

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Treashunt said:
    struck thru a thread

    A strike thru gets smashed into the coin's surface. As I posted above, these are fibers on the top of the surface. In a photo, they may look the same. :wink:

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Got here too late, but the lacquer residue is clear.... I have seen that on other coins, mainly copper. Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Got here too late, but the lacquer residue is clear.... I have seen that on other coins, mainly copper. Cheers, RickO

    Must be the mountain air. Good afternoon!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 .... Good afternoon Sir.... I like your latest series of educational threads.... Thanks for your efforts. Cheers, RickO

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see any lacquer residue. Take a normal shot so we can see what the coin actually looks like.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2017 12:57PM

    I'll work with you, ;) Do you see the build-up on the rim? To my eyes it looks like it goes completely across the rim as a cud should look. However, look closer. The build-up along some of its length is on the inside edge of the rim. That makes it harder to see. Not how it has flaked off at one end. The "blob" is a darker color of gold. On the actual coin in silver color the residue appears clearer and its light yellow tint is harder to see!

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well....I see Elvis -- and D B Cooper....and Sigmund Freud...and, hmmmm.

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