The story of Cappy Locks, the eBayer who jumped the gun (or, why dealers drink, part ???)
airplanenut
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Long story short: I sold a mixed lot of 7 cheap Lincolns (PCGS, NGC, ANACS) for $25 and change. Yesterday, I am greeted with these two emails:
(2:12PM)
I BOUGHT THIS LOT OF LINCOLNS AND WHEN I CHECKED THE CERTIFICATION NUMBERS ON THE TWO LINCOLN CENTS 2009 FORMATIVE YEARS DOUBLE PINKY ERRO AND THE 2012-S PR70 CENT COMES UP NOT VALID. THIS TWO COINS ARE FROM CHINA. THEY ARE NOT REAL ANACS GRADED COINS.
GO TO ANACS CERTIFICATION VERIFY AND CHECK FOR YOUR SELF.
3003970014 AND 400078100056. THE 2017-S IS GOOD 0302248030100063. AND THE1959-D 4565805 IS GOOD.
I DO NOT LIKE TO BUY BAD COINS. TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ABOUT THIS
(2:40PM)
AFTER I SENT THE MESSAGE ABOUT TWO BAD COINS, I CALLED ANACS ON THE PHONE AND THEY VERIFIED THAT THE TWO COIN WERE GRADED BY THEM. THEIR SYSTEM WAS NOT UPGRADED WITH THOSE COIN IN THE COMPUTER AT THIS TIME. SORRY FOR THE FIRST MESSAGE. THE COINS WERE GRADED BY THEM.
I WILL GIVE A 5 STAR REPORT.
THANKS, AN AGAIN SORRY.
...as if my time is best spent assembling sub $4 counterfeits into large group lots so I can collect a small commission on the sale. Heck, I'd like to give the counterfeiters some credit that even they have better coins to fake. Anyhoo, bottoms up!
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Yikes, that is rough
Cappy Locks - bwahahahaha what an idiot. I'd pay more than $4 for a counterfeit just for the fun of it.
I'm enjoying a nice Canadian whisky at the moment, so I don't feel your pain.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
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Forgot to add. Poor ANACS - can you imagine dealing with Cappie Locks on the phone?
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
At least he admitted he was wrong and offered an apology.
A rarity beyond rare coins.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I agree, they did admit to being wrong and apologized. That's more than you'd get from a lot of folks. I think it's great that buyers are of mind to check what they are buying to protect themselves from the same people that high dollar buyers try to protect themselves from. $5 or $10 could be $100 or $1000 to another person. I've been in both places and one stinks more than the other.
No reason one shouldn't be as careful as the next.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
Thanks for the laugh! Sipping a little Corsican red at the moment.
Send him some Louis Vuitton sunglasses instead.
If I ever became a dealer, I would need to drink more.
I love the name Cappy Locks. If I was starting a new identity, THAT WOULD BE IT,
He who knows he has enough is rich.
Is that even possible? I mean drinking more, not being a dealer.
I'm always tempted to be snarky back to the all caps lock crowd.
I AM A LITTLE HARD OF HEARING SO I APPRECIATE THE ALL CAPS.
SO ANACS IS LAZY?
Poor 'ol Cappy. Always whining before he thinks things through.
AIRPLANENUT, THANKS FOR POSTING AS THIS WAS A FUN READ
"Cappy Locks and the 3 Slabs"
Interestingly your experience mirrors mine: The lower the dollar value, the more potential for annoying buyers. Buyers of more expensive coins tend to have their stuff together. At the sub-$200 level especially, it is a mixed bag.
I FINALLY GET IT.... CAPPY LOCKS.... DUH!
I actually thought the guys name was Cappy Locks. I had this mental picture of some old timer sitting in a rocking chair out on the porch somewhere in the Ozarks checking out his collection. I think I may have reached the "beyond help" stage. PASS THE BOTTLE, BROTHER.
I have a safe full of cheap crappy stuff that I will not sell on ebay because I WANT TO AVOID THE PROBLEMS with cheap buyers!
bob
Speaking of the Ozarks; Who can answer this question?
What did Tennessee?
P.S. There will be no prize awarded to whoever guesses the correct answer first.
Badminton
It must be the guy's meds., he can't think straight but has just enough in marbles to go on the internet and a few bucks to buy for whatever reason. Scary. I had a joker a few weeks ago make me pay for return shipping on a certified coin, he opened up a "defective/does not work" case where the seller pays more for shipping. I saw that another seller had been exasperated by the same numbskull and contacted him who was also upset.
Nice try. No cigar.
@Hydrant
Of course, Tennessee saw what Arkansas.
The same thing Arkansas; but then what the heck did they see?
I have not sold anything on eBay for many years, but I do llike to check negative feedbacks when I am considering a purchase.
I strongly feel that there are a disproportionately large number of buyer negs on items less than $20.
Folks, we have a winner! Congratulations logger7.
As for an answer to your question; That my friend, shall forever remain "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."
Quote courtesy of Sir Winston Churchill.
Oh no! I feel just like Warren Beatty must have felt on Oscar Night! Oh the embarrassment! Sorry logger7, .....And the winner is.....Bill Dugan! Not my fault. Bonnie Parker handed me the wrong card. And I'm old. Senile. And I need a drink. Oh the shame of it all.
I am not offended so long as you take a very stiff drink, perhaps a double. Obligatory.
This posting system is way screwy anyhoots.
Thanks Bill. I'm already ahead of you with regards to the "stiff drink" part. I feel a little better. Not much..but just a bit better. Most likely go to bed, or rather, pass out, sometime before sundown. Splitting headache to start off tomorrow morning. Oh well, that's the price I'll pay for screwing-up. Thanks for being so understanding. BOTTOMS UP!
I am drinking Sierra Nevada Torpedo this afternoon & just got a Domino's extravaganza.
No worries here.
Yes. I've only had one negative in like the last 12 years. It was for a $4.99 expo card because "I was rude to him". And I was, but not over the card.
He sent me a message about another expo card that was 99 CENTS + $3 shipping. He asked me if I could ship it for 75 cents. [He did NOT say he was adding that to the other item. I didn't know he had bid on the other item. I charge a FLAT $3 shipping even if you buy 1000 items, still a TOTAL OF $3.] I explained that tracking required package rate and package rate started at $3 and eBay penalized me financially if I didn't use tracking.
His response was that eBay didn't punish me or anyone else for not using tracking. And he wouldn't be bidding on the 99 cents item.
I said "Good" and blocked him. I felt he was calling me a liar and explained in detail that there is a 10% penalty for being below standard and a 10% credit for being a top seller and that applied to everything I sold, 99 cent item or $1000 coin.
LOL.
He won the other item and paid and I shipped the next day. But his poor little feelings were hurt so he left me negative feedback for the transaction that went through swimmingly because he felt I was rude to him on the item he never bought.
I contacted him and apologized for the misunderstanding but again explained that I felt he was calling me a liar. He said, "I never called you a liar. You just interpreted it that way."
Joke is I'm buying a giant estate of expo collectibles. I hope he keeps trying to bid on them so he is constantly reminded that he's forever blocked...for being RUDE TO ME!!!
Over the years, I have watched many low volume seller's perfect feedback be destroyed by a single irrational pleb who would rather leave a negative than to simply ask for a resolution. By the way, it seems like 99% of problem buyers are for stuff worth less than $20.
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
Pretty sure I sat next to his sister Crappy Locks on the Subway today.
I once read a book about a little girl and 3 bears called "Goldie Locks"
I didn't get it until I saw this post
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They did see Miss Ouri of course.
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I gots a million more similarly fine quality numismatic contributions to post.
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AS TO THE ORIGINAL POST, I'M GLAD CAPPY LOCKS DID NO ULTIMATE HARM AND LEFT AN ENTERTAINING STORY BEHIND.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
There once was a man named Cappy,
who bought some coins he thought were cra*py,
he thought they were fake
but it was his mistake
now Cappy is very happy.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
25 December 2016, I had an unexpected eBay return item request.
26 days earlier, the buyer purchased a $2.5 Sesquicentennial in MS63, secure PCGS slab. I posted the true views and other pictures I took myself of the coin. It had an improperly mixed alloy, and had 3 or 4 miniscule copper spots on the surface of the coin, which were more than obvious in all of the photos.
I made it a point in the description that the coin exhibits copper spots and took specific photos of them. I'll try to dig up the true view or eBay sale. It's been almost 12 months.
Anyhow, on 25 December the guy opens up a return case on the basis of "coin has copper spots, not as described" basis.
I messaged the guy directly via eBay, and told him he had no grounds for a return because the coin was accurately described, photographed in detail, and that I would not accept any sort of return on the item on that basis. I told him it was not my problem that he spent too much on Christmas gifts.
He ended up leaving a negative (the only one I've ever had) because I did not accept his return. Whatever, honestly.
I'd love to vent with respect to a few buyers, over the years. Though, I suspected they were fellow dealers or members here, and as such, drank alone.
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