What does "made a coin" mean to you?
Tallpaul000
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I know opinions are like, well, you know....
Upgrades, crossovers, die varieties, raw to slab are some of the possibilities, but what are the some others??
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"Made a coin" in coin lingo means that you got the coin into its current slab.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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Some will say this can also refer to Artificially toning a coin or dipping an unattractive coin to make it blast white.
For me, I bought a lot of $20 face No Date Standing Liberty Quarters from Ebay. Seller only had 70 reviews, and had only sold one other lot of coins. When they arrived, to my pleasure I found 2 quarters with no stars on the back. Both turned out to be 1917-S coins, and one actually has a distinguishable date under a good loupe.. Not a huge win or anything, but I bought them at spot, so I consider myself to have "made" those two coins.
Sending a coin in for grading raw and it coming back graded in a new holder. This can also apply to an already graded coin that you find is a variety of some sort and sending it in for attribution.
I know what it means to @dcarr
I would just add that usually the term is a claim of pride. A badge of honor. So, the more useful usage might discount sending in common raw coins for common grades.
"I made that PCGS MS69 Lincoln cent! It was hand selected from rolls, and I just knew it would make top-pop!"
vs.
"I made that MS62 Lincoln cent! I picked it up off of the floor, and I just knew it wasn't too damaged to certify!"
Raw from Ebay.
To this. PCGS MS64BN.
Ken
A made coin has sworn an Omertà to its owner.
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Typically it refers to a person getting the coin into the holder it is in now. It could be a cross-over, an upgrade or a raw submission. I have seen it used most when it comes to raw submissions.
"I submitted a roll of coin X and made the first MS68."
This is what it means to me.
Agree with the posts on the coin in it's current holder. This is used because it's the holder makes the coin valuable in many cases.
someone else paid the grading fee
What does "made a coin" mean to you?
Easy:
Think:
China.
BHNC #203
and just that. it has no meaning as to the grade or designations. it's just 2 syllables shorter than I submitted the coin. breath saved is breath earned.
thought you'd never ask.
I never get tired of posting this:
before:
after:
Full disclosure: TRE "made" the coin. But it was my coin, before & after. Then I sold it.
That's the meaning to me as well.
You make a coin when you take it from raw to slabbed. Everything else is a regrade of someone else's make.
this should have been a one reply thread with a lot of agrees.
Upgrades, crackouts are fine with me.
But if you actually use the words 'made a coin', that means to me you are a 'coin nerd'.
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That is a term I have never used.... just not how I speak - or write. I have seen it applied, however, it just never seems to fit. The word 'made' implies craftsmanship and actual labor. Yes, i know... I tend to overthink issues ...
Cheers, RickO
I have agreed with this stance for quite some time. It implies that the coin didn't exist before someone with some special skill (mailing something) came along. It also has negative connotations of taking an active role in futzing with the coin. I understand that it, along with many other terms used in numismatics, really don't make a lot of sense on the surface, and that even if there exists a better word to describe receiving a desirable grade on a coin (I've never heard it used to describe a grade the submitter didn't want), that use of "made" is here to stay.
And while we're overthinking things, I'm thinking that the origin of "I made a coin" is a shorthand corruption of "I submitted a coin and it made (some grade)," where "made" in that context comes directly from the idiom "to make a grade."
At the end of the day, I still like my earlier explanation better.
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........ means I'm very happy.
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I have used the term “Homemade” in my registry sets for years to identify a coin that I submitted raw to PCGS and got the grade.
I sometimes list the date it was “made” and the population at the time it was graded if it is a particularly low pop coin. Just a way to keep track for myself.
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Well, the phrase "make the grade" means to do something well enough to succeed at it. Or to reach a desired level in some standard or scale.
So it fits pretty well if we accept "made the coin" to convey a positive achievement with regard to its status or grade.
I don't see it applied well to submitting a coin for grading with disappointing results. It needs to be a win.
Lance.
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I made a 66+ Barber half. Broke it out of a NGC 67 holder. It stickered and I made $400 after fees
To me.......made a coin means that you 'minted' it
JMO
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
This one is my most memorable... started as a raw purchase at a Baltimore show about a decade ago.
When I've encountered this usage, it seems to relate to having a coin of inferior quality stuck in a higher "grade" holder by a major TPG. The perpetrator thus having "made" money by virtue of the holder and not the coin. Presumably, the next owner will be "unmade" on trying to sell the coin.
Yes, to me this is the purest form of "making a coin", finding a coin that has probably never been slabbed and slabbing it.
But I could see how people would extend it to crack-outs of coins they bought slabbed to get a higher grade
If I told my friends I made a coin , the Secret Service would be at my door.
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