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CLIPPED LINCOLN , LEGIT OR POST MINT ? THOUGHTS AND WHY, PLS

Hi all Error Experts,
Found in rolls of wheaties....real or not? Pretty significant clip////
Can you explain markers for making determination?


Regards,
RJ

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe this is a fake. I do need better photos to be sure. The blob at 2:00 on the reverse look off to me.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not see the Blakesley Effect on this cent...Although it is possible that it might not be there, it is almost always an indicator of a true clipped planchet. Cheers, RickO

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not all clips have the Blakesley Effect. I look for metal flow. I do not see any metal flow in the op coin.

  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭

    I think PMD.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibly a retained clip that broke away after the strike? I like the way the inner edge of the rim by the second T of TRUST fades outwards.

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking PMD also. The "clip" looks wrong.

  • VernoVerno Posts: 327 ✭✭✭

    Does a coin like this have a enough value to send in to our hosts?

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2017 8:49AM

    This is a tough one. I would lean towards post-strike damage (PSD) due to the following:

    • little or no Blakesley effect
    • no obvious metal flow along the clip
    • strange design rim taper into the clip (could be damage from circulation)
    • curviture of the clip is a little akward ( I wouldn't normally use this as a factor)

    The one thing that I do like about it is that the edge does not show obvious grinding marks. Their presence would have been a good indicator that it wasn't a curved clip (but would not have excluded it from being pre-strike damage).

    This would not be worth grading (if profit is your goal). Even if you had a real clip on a 1948 MS64 wheat, it would not be worth it. Clips are low value errors in most cases, and they are common on wheats.

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Verno said:
    Does a coin like this have a enough value to send in to our hosts?

    Value is "well under $10", sorry

    I'm on the fence about whether it's legit. I see what the Capt. mentions, but really not much else. On the other hand I don't see a smoking gun that says it isn't legit. My vote is that you should enjoy it indent worry too much.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    I like the way the inner edge of the rim by the second T of TRUST fades outwards.

    Maybe, maybe not. Could be lighting or dirt.

    A good close up photo of that area will tell us for sure one way or another.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I believe this is a fake. I do need better photos to be sure. The blob at 2:00 on the reverse look off to me.

    My gut told me the same thing.......

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what about vertical striation remnants in the crescent?

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    what about vertical striation remnants in the crescent?

    Ya those also led me to believe it's fake.

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