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Time to make your Postal Packages Pregnant!

amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

After years of no issues the Post Office is getting bad about running non-machinable mail through the sorting machines! I've had 2 slabs broken in the last couple of months after years of no issues shipping the same way. I guess I am going to increase the thickness of my shipments from a stiff 1/2 inch package to 2 inches! The last one was ripped to shreads and the slab was in multiple pieces. :s

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What packing are you using when this happens?

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had that happen once. Just put FRAGILE on the package and they won't put thru the machine.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Slab inside bubble mailer inside cardboard inside a manila envelope with fragile stickers attached. On top of that our Post Offices have stopped supplying fragile markings of any kind trying to upsell their fragile handling surcharge which costs $9.98!

    @blu62vette said:
    What packing are you using when this happens?

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    See above!

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I had that happen once. Just put FRAGILE on the package and they won't put thru the machine.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3/4" thick is what is required for the machinery to kick it out for hand canceling.

    bob :)

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I pay the extra postage to send as First Class Package/Thick Envelope... vs. just sending First Class and I have so far had no issues sending slabs in bubble mailers.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2017 7:56PM

    It's 1/4 inch!

    Edit to add...1/4 inch is where the post office makes you pay non-machinable rate...don't know about any automation.

    @AUandAG said:
    3/4" thick is what is required for the machinery to kick it out for hand canceling.

    bob :)

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am paying the same rate as you and my packaging is stronger than a bubble mailer alone!

    @illini420 said:
    I pay the extra postage to send as First Class Package/Thick Envelope... vs. just sending First Class and I have so far had no issues sending slabs in bubble mailers.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2017 7:57PM

    Just use a padded or bubble envelope for mailing instead of the manila envelope. Wrap the slab in bubble wrap within the envelope and you will exceed the 3/4 inch minimum. It costs about $2.70 to ship a package up to 4 ounces that way, which should be more than enough weight for a slab.



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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I use flat rate priority envelopes or small boxes 90% of the time. Its only a couple dollars more and comes with $50 insurance. I have yet to have one single problem with thousands of shipments.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will just start using boxes if needed. That's a FU to the post office as the shipping is as you state!

    @grote15 said:
    Just use a padded or bubble envelope for mailing instead of the manila envelope. Wrap the slab in bubble wrap within the envelope and you will exceed the 3/4 inch minimum. It costs about $2.70 to ship a package up to 4 ounces that way, which should be more than enough weight for a slab.

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Putting fragile on a package is useless.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I rip a 2 page sheet out of the center of an old magazine and rip it in half,,,,, wad them up and put 1 piece in the bubble mailer first, then the slab wrapped in the sales invoice wrapped with a rubber band then the other piece of wadded up paper.

    Had a slab cracked once before doing this,,,,, never had one broken since. Package is about 1" thick after this.

    GrandAm :)
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,114 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never ship without using at least a Priority Mail box. Sure, it cuts down on profit, but I would rather make a little less and have a happy client receive an undamaged coin than to make incrementally more over time only to have the sporadic client have a bad experience.

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  • kuwegg57kuwegg57 Posts: 107 ✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I had that happen once. Just put FRAGILE on the package and they won't put thru the machine.

    All packages are placed in a bin that is then dumped on a huge machine that automatically sorts them. The machine cannot read so fragile pieces will still go through.

    Retired USPS

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kuwegg57 said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I had that happen once. Just put FRAGILE on the package and they won't put thru the machine.

    All packages are placed in a bin that is then dumped on a huge machine that automatically sorts them. The machine cannot read so fragile pieces will still go through.

    Retired USPS

    This is good to know. What keeps them from going thru the machine??

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    I never ship without using at least a Priority Mail box. Sure, it cuts down on profit, but I would rather make a little less and have a happy client receive an undamaged coin than to make incrementally more over time only to have the sporadic client have a bad experience.

    Couldn't agree more

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe I should put this in better context. Not everything I sell is expensive. This happened to be a $20 certified Jefferson Nickel. Are you going to offer free shipping and spend almost $6 in this situation?

    @TomB said:
    I never ship without using at least a Priority Mail box. Sure, it cuts down on profit, but I would rather make a little less and have a happy client receive an undamaged coin than to make incrementally more over time only to have the sporadic client have a bad experience.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You should be able to ship for $2.61.

    GrandAm :)
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have only shipped gold coins... and they go registered....That being said, I receive many coins, packaged in several different styles..... all have arrived safely. Well, except for one gold coin, that was stolen at the point of origin... and the seller made good on that one. Cheers, RickO

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2017 7:11AM

    My case and point is you pay almost a $2 surcharge for non-machinable mail. It does include tracking which offsets some of the surcharge.The Post Office requires this if a package is non bendable or over 1/4 inch thick. When they go ahead and run it through the sorting machine they are ripping you off! You are not getting the service you paid for!

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    It's 1/4 inch!

    Edit to add...1/4 inch is where the post office makes you pay non-machinable rate...don't know about any automation.

    @AUandAG said:
    3/4" thick is what is required for the machinery to kick it out for hand canceling.

    bob :)

    Not for a padded envelope. Just pack enough bubble around it to make it 3/4 of one inch and you're set to go. 1/4" applies to hard sided packages.
    bob

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What little I have shipped, I do not think you can beet the small priority box, JMO :smile:

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,114 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Maybe I should put this in better context. Not everything I sell is expensive. This happened to be a $20 certified Jefferson Nickel. Are you going to offer free shipping and spend almost $6 in this situation?

    @TomB said:
    I never ship without using at least a Priority Mail box. Sure, it cuts down on profit, but I would rather make a little less and have a happy client receive an undamaged coin than to make incrementally more over time only to have the sporadic client have a bad experience.

    I'd guess the least expensive coin on my site at any given time is about $75-$100 and these coins also are shipped in at least a Priority Mail box and I pay for the shipping as Certified Mail. Today, that costs me about $6-$7 for a single coin. It's just what I do, but I realize it doesn't make sense for everyone.

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kuwegg57 said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I had that happen once. Just put FRAGILE on the package and they won't put thru the machine.

    All packages are placed in a bin that is then dumped on a huge machine that automatically sorts them. The machine cannot read so fragile pieces will still go through.

    Retired USPS

    At least you've CYA'd your azz in the event of a claim. Best bet is to make them thick enough and when taping on a label make sure the tape goes around the whole package at least twice.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    I never ship without using at least a Priority Mail box. Sure, it cuts down on profit, but I would rather make a little less and have a happy client receive an undamaged coin than to make incrementally more over time only to have the sporadic client have a bad experience.

    Not to mention that Priority really IS faster, despite some people claiming it's not.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the tip - sent out a pregnant package today! :D

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