fake 1889-cc $1 pcgs xf40 on ebay
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That mint mark looks wrong, but is it in a counterfeit holder as well?
Reported
I don't see what you are seeing. Pics are not the greatest but it's a VAM5. Can you point out the tells?
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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fgYAAOSwbl5Zh5WN/s-l400.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Po8AAOSwU1RZh5Zx/s-l1600.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5ZMAAOSwaZJZh5Ym/s-l1600.jpg
the holder is 100% fake
double check me - the image's barcode is wrong.
pass.
Definitely a fake holder and it looks polished also. Yuk!
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A polished VF20 in straight XF40 holder for one. The label insert doesn't look close to genuine either.
Reported, FWIW.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
I don't have a bar code reader but the cert # checks out.
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
Wow super INFORMATIVE. The best ever. I genuinely love you guys.
As a novice I would love to hear what gave this coin away as what has been described as a horrible fake.
I would love to say that the quality of the coin compared to the grade is what made me say for sure a problem. unfortunately I have seen both pcgs and ngc certify such dogs over the years that this coin in a holder just didnt surprise me.
The font and design of the holder is what confirmed my feeling.
The insert and holder are no doubt NOT genuine PCGS products, the coin looks genuine but cleaned to death.
Images below are from Ebay, not affiliated with the seller, just for comparison.
Staying on topic, here's one that needs to go, a no doubter for sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-CC-AU-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-Key-Date-Sharp-About-Uncirculated-US-1-Rare-Coin-/232444086889?hash=item361ebf4a69:g:BBMAAOSw7zlZjen~
The coin looks good besides the obvious cleaning, it may be an altered date, have to have it in hand. I report fakes every single day all year long. Here's another 1892S that needs to go too. Look at that 2 of the date and the overall cast appearance, another no doubter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1892-S-1-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-/263133724644?epid=170440827&hash=item3d43fdffe4:g:fWwAAOSwVbxZf9yc
That's funny, it checks out on PCGS's Certification check as being just as it is
I wonder if the op coin could be a cast of the real thing then polished to death to hide the pebbling.
More often than not, the cert number will return the correct info on the cert lookup page.
Sometimes they get the barcode right, in this case, the online barcode generating tool used gave a quite different barcode. That tool says the barcode is wrong. Also, the font for the coin info - 7190.40/82687714 - is unquestionably wrong.
Seems the spacing of the date on the coin is to spread apart, could be from the image. The insert and holder are no good no question. I'm communicating with the seller and he has refunded the buyer and is in the process of getting his money back. The reason for the fakes is because there's a demand. Cut the demand, educate buyers and the counterfeits will vanish.
Thank you very much for that information MsMorrisine, really do appreciate you taking the time to explain it.
@MsMorrisine.... I am curious, do you have a barcode scanner? I have often wondered how I would check the barcodes....certainly a key indicator.... Thanks for the information posted... Cheers, RickO
There are online barcode generators
Pcgs uses the interleaved 2 of 5 barcode format
There is an old pcgs numbering system and a new one. Both are given on their site.
Sold for $1914.33!
Did you see the seller's completed items?
A 1952-s PCGS ms66 FBL 50c....take a look at the picture of the bell lines and tell me if you see the absolute worst example of a mangled mess of bell lines in your life.
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So the coin in question is thought to be real, but the holder is counterfeit? By real, I mean an authentic Morgan but at a lower grade than what is in the holder?
@ricko @MsMorrisine The PCGS Cert Verification app features a barcode scanner for this very purpose
@Thunderproof .... Thanks.... Cheers, RickO
The 1952-s 50c pcgs ms66 fbl and 1892-cc $1 pcgs ms60 holder was counterfeit as well.
This guy is duping people for months now
Once again the holder is a clear counterfeit. Therefor the coin inside no longer means anything
Counterfeit factories should be on some ones list.
Real coins with wrong grade in counterfeit holders now. WTH.
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Now that I look closer at the holder I can see that the font is different than on a genuine insert, also no picture of the hologram.