Haven't seen a silver eagle milk spot thread in a while.

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Coinstartled
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Problem solved or problem forgotten?

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  • Coinstartled
    Coinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I guess that forgotten is the correct answer.

  • YQQ
    YQQ Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    what is a milk spot? same as a carbon spot, just another name?

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  • morgandollar1878
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    There are better things to read than complaints about milk spots on coins.

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  • Coinstartled
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    @morgandollar1878 said:
    There are better things to read than complaints about milk spots on coins.

    You mean like another 17 cac threads?

    Milk spots had been a serious concern as they would not appear right away. I believe that PCGS offered a reward if the mystery of the spots could be solved. Any serious comments would be appreciated.

  • Insider2
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    How's this: Milk spots are "serious" detractions.

  • morgandollar1878
    morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    CAC threads are out of control also but only because there is so much difference in understanding of what the stickers mean and and how each coin either gets a sticker or not.
    I didn't think that milk spots were a mystery. My understanding is that they are due to improper rinsing of the Planchet and can show up on the coin at any time down the road after the minting process has been completed.

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  • ricko
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    @YQQ....No, totally different than carbon spots... these are white, round to oblong.... and form on ASE's at some point past their minting - usually well after received by the buyer. They were a big problem for a while...have not heard much lately. Yes, there was a reward offered for a solution since no one seemed to be able to remove them. It was hypothesized that it was due to a mint cleaning/rinsing problem, likely at the planchet stage. Again, never proved. A potential preventative measure (by Russ) was to wash the ASE in acetone as soon as received. I did that and never had milk spots.... no idea if I was lucky or it really worked. Many stopped buying ASE's because of the issue. Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2
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    I thought the Mint informed "someone" - possibly at a TPGS the cause was due to planchet prep.

  • Coinstartled
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    Thank you, Ricko. I was looking at a lot of PR70 SAE's online and passed because I didn't feel like examining each for the spots.

  • JBK
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    Maybe the Mint should start applying an antiqued finish to Silver Eagles - that would "resolve" a lot of issues...

  • jessewvu
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    I had a few small ones on my congrats set ASEs.

    I have seen more issues around the perimeter of the coins where it looks like they were handled. Makes me wonder how TPGs get coins out of plastic capsules and into holders. Do they wear gloves or use coin tweezers?

  • Coinstartled
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    @jessewvu said:
    I had a few small ones on my congrats set ASEs.

    I have seen more issues around the perimeter of the coins where it looks like they were handled. Makes me wonder how TPGs get coins out of plastic capsules and into holders. Do they wear gloves or use coin tweezers?

    So the spots are still showing up.

    Yeesh.

  • jessewvu
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    Much smaller than before. More like pin prick spots but they are distracting on 70's.

  • Coinstartled
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    @jessewvu said:
    Much smaller than before. More like pin prick spots but they are distracting on 70's.

    70's are supposed to be problem free at 10x.

  • PRECIOUSMENTAL
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    @jessewvu said:
    I had a few small ones on my congrats set ASEs.

    I have seen more issues around the perimeter of the coins where it looks like they were handled. Makes me wonder how TPGs get coins out of plastic capsules and into holders. Do they wear gloves or use coin tweezers?

    My understanding is that no gloves or tongs are used.

  • JBK
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    @jessewvu said:
    Makes me wonder how TPGs get coins out of plastic capsules and into holders. Do they wear gloves or use coin tweezers?

    As far as I know they go commando - no gloves or tweezers - just bare hands. As hard as that is to believe, that is what I have seen stated on multiple occasions.

  • Insider2
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    @Coinstartled said: "70's are supposed to be problem free at 10x."

    Is this written somewhere on the NGC or PCGS site or is it hearsay?

    @jessewvu asked: "Makes me wonder how TPGs get coins out of plastic capsules and into holders."

    Easy, tip the roll up and wack it on to a velvet pad. BTW, I'll bet SE are batch graded and never get into flips.

  • asheland
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    From my observation, they seem to appear within a year. After a year, I feel safe that they won't show up.
    I'd be curious to hear if they have appeared after a years time..

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  • CollectorMan
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    I hate to disappoint you asheland, but the milk spots can form years after mintage and, even in both PCGS and NGC slabs, years after being slabbed. No way around it.

    CollectorMan

  • topstuf
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    @CollectorMan said:
    I hate to disappoint you asheland, but the milk spots can form years after mintage and, even in both PCGS and NGC slabs, years after being slabbed. No way around it.

    CollectorMan

    One way. Stick to monster boxes and don't even open them. :p

  • bronco2078
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    generic rounds with defects? Say it ain't so :o

  • MsMorrisine
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    On the numismatic pucks, there has been a great reduction of milk spots received fresh from the mint. The ones I've spotted have been small.

    There are also what I call chocolate milk spots. They have a similar resistance to removal. These have been nearly eliminated.

    I do not examine enough ASE nor commem silver to add commentary.

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  • YQQ
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    thank you RickO,
    am wondering if Canadian these spot s will at some time also show in Canadian coins.
    So far I am not aware.

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  • callawayc7
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    @YQQ said:
    thank you RickO,
    am wondering if Canadian these spot s will at some time also show in Canadian coins.
    So far I am not aware.

    Not sure about Canada, but the Chinese Panda have the same milk spot problems.

  • GRANDAM
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    am wondering if Canadian these spot s will at some time also show in Canadian coins.

    Canadian spot just as bad or worse,,,,,

    GrandAm :)
  • pf70collector
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    Stopped collecting 70s in silver because of the spotting problem.

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