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Won a 2009 DAN CARR ASE Proof for $156 on Ebay and seller refused to ship. My option?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-American-Silver-Eagle-DANIEL-CARR-OVERSTRIKE/282587447404
Won it on Aug 2 and paid on Aug 4. Seller claimed that I didn't pay on time. What are my options beside a negative feedback? Thanks.
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I don't see any specified terms in listing regarding payment receipt. All you can do is neg and move on.
Oddly enough, though, he left positive feedback for the underbidder who purchased your piece less than two days after your purchase.
Usually, a seller employing a tactic like this to refund payment believes they sold an item for too low a price, but in this case, he actually lost money by choosing to offer a second chance to the underbidder. Puzzling.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
What do these usually go for?
Could it be his second account? Btw I paid 10 + hours before the second auction was completed. So this was his plan all along?
Around couple hundreds on ebay.
He didn't get what he wanted, so he's trying to get you on an asterisk in the conditions of the sale which never existed in the first place.
Thanks guys. Anyhow more funding for my new purchase as I already spent most of my allowance for this month between fleabay and BST here.
Wait for me silver proof Britannia ~
I am an eBay seller and don't recommend dropping N-bombs, but this seller deserves it.
Thank you. I work three jobs. And one is selling suits on Amazon. I understand the pains as an online seller and would prefer to work it out with other sellers instead of negative when it comes to bumpy transaction .
This lot was paid within 2 days after winning in which was longer than my normal. However , the seller did not contact me until I sent him a message today which is 5 days after I paid.
From what I am seeing, the seller might been shill bidding but set the max lower in hoping of getting more real bets. And or, the seller pre- planned his escape by selling it to his side account with a 6-12 hours? listing on the day I paid.
Note: The winner of the second auction in which he left a + feedback was r***i . But there is no such bidder in the original auction.
In any case, average price for this lot wound be $230? However it is a small change ($70) for anyone to lose sleep over it. More beauties to collect~
I would thank him and buy a real coin with the money.
It was an unexpected win as I did four digits purchases elsewhere around the same time. I actually had to drop by bank to deposit extra cash to make this purchase.
That is a nasty scam... I believe you have correctly identified the ruse. You should identify the seller here so others can avoid them. Cheers, RickO
Time for the N bomb
BHNC #203
link to second auction for same item?
It's obvious he didn't think the highest bid was enough. You were bidding against the seller's alternate identity (shill bidder) so when he sold it to the second lowest bidder he sold it to himself. Neg his azz and move on. Also let us know who this seller is.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
This is the link to his second auction which ended half day later after I paid. I can't tell when the list was created.
Seller : loghome0214 ( Richard P Harris )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-American-Silver-Eagle-DANIEL-CARR-OVERSTRIKE-/282598621774
Eby changes encrypted initials for a bidder in the feedback section vs the bidding history.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
You can see the seller ID in the Ebay listing posted in the description.
I am an ebay seller too, and hate recommending negatives, but yes, he deserves one. Whatever you do, do NOT threaten him with a negative (Like saying "you will get a negative if you don't ship", or ebay will remove it.
Thanks! Something new I learn.
Yes. I forgot the terminology for such action. But I did help a few sellers on amazon out of bad metric by removing the negative feedback in the same situation from bumpy transactions etc.
Sounds worthy of a neg. Two days to pay is not that long. At the least the seller should have contacted you to ask for payment if they were in such a hurry to get it.
Collector, occasional seller
Wholeheartedly agree.
The neg was deserved. Some folks have lives other than watching auctions end on ebay. Auctions don't always end at the time you choose. Sellers on ebay should understand, that unless immediate payment is required with a BIN, there will be times when buyers aren't sitting at their computers with the finger on the PP button.
bob
Call Dann Carr. See if he can make you one.
Before you criticize another you should walk a mile in his shoes. Then, you’ll be a mile away and you’ll have his shoes.
I am fuzzy on the details. Were there two separate auctions for the same item? I have seen that before - a recipe for disaster. In any case, seller is unscrupulous. Good to know these are in demand, though, as I picked one up from DCARR back in the day. Helps to offset some of my bad "investments" with the US MInt.
Sure . I will also twist his arms and make me a thick DC burnished version while at it.
@JBK said:
There was only one auction to start
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-American-Silver-Eagle-DANIEL-CARR-OVERSTRIKE/282587447404
But the seller relisted or sold to an questionable account half day later after I paid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-American-Silver-Eagle-DANIEL-CARR-OVERSTRIKE-/282598621774
Do that. He made me 5 of them 1964 D Peace dollars.
Before you criticize another you should walk a mile in his shoes. Then, you’ll be a mile away and you’ll have his shoes.
I wonder if anyone else would like to chip in on the "Rent A Dann" project
Free lunch and open bar with top notch Bourbons~ lol
You can "rent" him. From design to production. Coin clubs and other outfits do it all the time. However, the design will be totally unique to the commissioners wants not related to previous projects. Not to mention the fantasy date overstrike dies are totally defaced never to be used again once he's done with them.
For a proof overstrike, the fuzzy photos are a red flag for me. So maybe it's just as well the seller unwound your deal.
But I understand your irritation, especially since "...Daniel Carr only made approximately a small number of these elite coins."
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, jacrispies, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
The major difference between Carr's stuff and most "real US coins" is that his stuff tends to go up in price and are easy to sell
And they are a whole lot of fun as an adjunct to collecting "real" coins.
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
$235 - $260 is the going Price .... in this case buyer should have immediately paid, so not to give seller wiggle room ..That is my experience when getting low ball bids to win
...how cool would it be to have Dan make a special CU Forum strike!...$200 buy-in per member or something like that??? I know I would be in