Heritage gets WW2 Experimental Cent consignment
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Nice! The only thing I liked more in that article was the $1,000 gold certificate. A dream note for me but sadly I will never be able to afford it.
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That is an awesome group!
Not too sure I'd be feeling so great, if I was the person that bought the last one for $70k though!
This looks like a great auction with patterns from Theodore Glynn's father who was a manager at the Blue Ridge Glass Corporation. Given how may companies these were produced at, I wonder how many others are in family collections.
Here are a few companies in this auction:
Wasnt that a forum member?
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Coin sale at link below
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wS6r94r66BAJV3zC6
I wonder if a certain accountant has been made aware...
WOW! That is cool! I love WWII era coins and stuff!
That would be the one
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
The glass cent has always intrigued me. Would love to hold one...actually, I would just like to see one.. in real life....Cheers, RickO
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That would be a stunning coin to own.
I think Charmy needs one!
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Have this expo glass at grading
Looks nice @ScarsdaleCoin? Which TPG?
iI am very much aware of this auction and bidding .
I did actively bid on the $70,000 glass cent pattern but dropped out way below the $70,000 mark.
I am back to bid at a much more affordable price.
Now that there are more, I'm curious to see if these end up closer to the discovery piece or closer to the what the other materials have been closing at.
I've also noticed that some are slabbed by PCGS while others are slabbed by NGC. The NGC pieces are from the Glynn, but I wonder who is the source of the PCGS Blue Ridge glass pattern. I like how the NGC insert indicates the issuer "Blue Ridge Glass Corp." It would have been nice to have the Glynn provenance as well.
Company tokens in glass are very unusual. Heritage did a great job on all of these pieces.
This is going to be a very exciting sale. They are way out of my league, but I hope our forum friend Oreville gets a hold of one for his collection.
I wish I had purchased one of these experimental cents "back in the day" when they we're low profile.
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"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I am still up and am excited about my winnings doing it all on my computer on-line remotely far away from the auction.
Sadly I was in the elevator when I lost the bidding for the two zinc plated steel blank planchets but I made up for it as follows.
I won four amber glass pieces of which one was a preform piece with the letters AA clearly shown. Another was a heavily clipped/broken off incomplete piece and the last two are unbroken complete amber colored pieces which is overgraded by NGC as MS-64 but the grade does not really even matter.
I also was lucky enough to win the two finest Blue Ridge Glass Corp "stamped" aqua colored glass tokens!
I obtained all six glass pieces for under $16K which is less than the asking price of the single previously known broken amber glass experimental cent!
These experimental cents and token will be given a fine home while my wife vows revenge on me!!!!
Last but not least, I dropped out of the bidding on the 1942. PCGS SP-62 J-2054 zinc plated steel experimental cent as the price rose to nearly double what I was willing to spend as I already own such pieces in all PCGS/NGC grades from 60 to 64.
Once again, I salute Roger Burdette for making this all possible as i was shocked by his "re- discovery" of the aqua colored Blue Ridge Corp. glass tokens and badly wanted to procure at least one of them.
They will now reside next to their 1942 experimental sister cent pieces including the one made out of bakelite as well as one of the very first 1964 experimental copper-nickel clad quarter sized planchet.
I am eagerly awaiting Roger's time travel to 1964 when he investigates the history of our clad coinage.
Well done!
TD
Congrats to @oreville for the pickups and @RogerB for the research!
I'm glad you were able to pick up all the aqua pieces. It's nice that they will be kept together. I bid on two of them and was close but not enough to win as I had my sights elsewhere for this auction.
The funny thing is that I bid on two that I thought were nice but went for much less than others in the end.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/-1942-1c-blue-ridge-glass-corporation-aqua-glass-token-rb-42-70-t-4-r8-ms64-ngc/a/1258-5387.s?ic3=ViewItem-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ThisAuction-120115
https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/-1942-1c-cyan-aqua-glass-preform-blank-rb-42-70-t-3-r8-ms66-ngc/a/1258-5384.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115
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"Once again, I salute Roger Burdette for making this all possible as i was shocked by his "re- discovery" of the aqua colored Blue Ridge Corp. glass tokens and badly wanted to procure at least one of them.
These BRGC pieces could not have found a better or more appreciative home than with Oreville. They will be proudly displayed with his other 1942 experimental pieces. Oreville's generosity in allowing full access to his collection back in 2011-2012 when the WW-II pattern book was being researched, greatly enhanced its scope and accuracy.
All of the pieces from the Heritage auction will be described and illustrated in the book's 2nd edition - whenever that comes out (not soon, I promise).
The Glynn family pieces are an important insight into all that occurred behind the scenes, and a testament to the determination of Mr. Glynn's father and the company to support the war effort.
RE: "I am eagerly awaiting Roger's time travel to 1964 when he investigates the history of our clad coinage."
Research into the Inco and Gould "private patterns" continues. Preliminary results indicate substantial changes to present reference books will have to be made. However, I plan to retain Pollock numbers as much as possible.
@RogerB Do you know the name of Theodore Glynn's father? His name wasn't mentioned in the articles I read but it's useful to attribute the pieces to him.
The same. This consignor is "Jr."
Congrats @oreville
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Congrats @oreville I though they went for cheap.
ROGER B:
A few years back, I managed to procure Kenn Henderson's (deceased Treasurer of Inco when their world-wide research facility was located in Sterling Forest, NY) complete collection of quarter sized 1964 experimental planchets and private patterns from all the different companies submitting their ideas to the US Mint and showing the progression to the copper-nickel clad concept that also had the non magnetic properties required to win the vending machine industry's approval to replace the silver coinage. His book of experimental planchets and tokens is priceless and must not be broken up. When you are ready, I will hand deliver the book to you for your research.
Excellent!
oreville - Anytime that is convenient for you will be fine with me. I'm about 3/4 though the research so this would be an excellent time. I agree that Mr. Henderson's collection should not be broken up. It is an important source of first-hand information.
PM or email so we can coordinate. (I can drive, fly, or take the Batmobile to you.)
Way to go oreville!
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
Try telling my wife this!
She is vowing revenge!
Glad you won them Oreville. I can't think of a better home!!!
Zoins NGC certified it as MS64 Eglit 57-A
PCGS at the time said they would not accept it for certification not sure they understood what it was exactly. Quite a rare piece in remarkable shape 50 years prior to these experimentsal pcs
Perhaps PCGS will now cross your glass token now that it is in an NGC slab. Who cares about the grade? Even an MS or SP 63 would be really nice.
Serious question......are Henderson's pieces in Wayte Raymond album pages? I have an empty Raymond quarter dollar page (some holes enlarged) in my files with typed white stickers under the holes that say things like "95/5 NI-SI PERM. CORE." He may have given it to me when he gave me a token and a blank.
TD