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Why your coins shipped via FedEx and UPS get delivered by USPS

derrybderryb Posts: 37,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 14, 2017 8:19AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Select high-volume shippers are able to drop off presorted packages at the local Postal Service depot for “last mile” delivery at cut-rate prices.

"An April analysis from Citigroup estimates that if costs were fairly allocated, on average parcels would cost $1.46 more to deliver." Amazon appears to be the biggest benefactor.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2017 8:23AM

    It's all about contracts...and them (FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc...) not wanting to go down to the lowest level of delivery when the USPS does it every day...IMO.

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  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭

    SmartPost..lol ..The US Post office money earned to deliver a box ...little over a dollar ....FedEx,UPS keeps the rest ...
    Shipper saves

  • Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2017 10:17AM

    If I ran the PO, I would immediately raise first class stall to $1.00 and renegotiate contracts with UPS and FedEx. Increase rates by 50% across the board. If they don't like it, fine, build your OWN last mile infrastructure.

    And I would build a lot more PO boxes and lower the rent on them to encourage more folks to use them.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2017 10:29AM

    PO is already coming to your house. Cost them next to nothing to throw in a box. Does, however, delay you getting the box.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    " I just shipped my pants ". My favorite K-mart commercial.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2017 1:01PM

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    " I just shipped my pants ". :s My favorite K-mart commercial.

    I had to look that one up...we don't have Kmart in OK.

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  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    " I just shipped my pants ". :s My favorite K-mart commercial.

    I had to look that one up...we don't have Kmart in OK.

    We may not have K-Mart in the rest of the country the way it's going...

    I rarely order from Amazon these days (maybe a single order every other month), but I'd guess 3 of 4 packages are delivered by Amazon themselves (many times on a Sunday).

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazon delivery, by whatever service, is hard to beat.... fast, very fast. Cheers, RickO

  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2017 9:25AM

    I still scratch my head wondering how the postal circus can deliver items from China to me that cost less than the minimal amount of postage that I have to buy when sending a 1oz package w/tracking down the street.

  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Amazon delivery, by whatever service, is hard to beat.... fast, very fast. Cheers, RickO

    unless you live in Alaska!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not know that.... they are super fast in the mountains of NYS....Cheers, RickO

  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When I was a manager with Amazon, I shipped 4000 +/- packages per day, and a lot of them went Smart Post, where FedEx picked them up, shipped them across them country, or even the world, and let the post office have the last piece of the delivery.

    Focus on who does what the best. The post office NEVER handled packages in bulk for long distances well, and FedEx was not built to go door to door.

    I am sure the incremental cost for the post office, delivering presorted packages, is minor, so it is almost all "free" revenue, whereas FedEx saves a bundle.

    What amazes me is that BOTH together are CHEAPER than either one. For example, I was shipping a package today, from Texas to Washington. FedEx was $17+, post office was $19, but Smart Post was $12.

    Someday, the post office is going to need to relook at their model. I'm sure that it is built on tons of 1st class stamped letters, with some packages, and junk mail was a virtual freebie, plus who decided books, etc. (heavy dudes) deserved cheap rates. However, with 1st class almost gone, most of the mail I receive is junk.

  • JBTurnerJBTurner Posts: 72 ✭✭

    I rarely order from Amazon these days (maybe a single order every other month), but I'd guess 3 of 4 packages are delivered by Amazon themselves (many times on a Sunday).

    Amazon uses contractors to deliver their packages.

  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazon uses contractors to deliver their packages.

    Probably not for too long.........Amazon Airlines? Prime Air? I wonder when they will place their 777F order?

  • GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 18, 2019 4:31AM

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  • Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2017 6:39AM

    @GotTheBug said:
    The Post Office relies heavily on parcel deliveries to try to "stay afloat" in the face of the declining volume of first class mail. Will there come a day when the USPS is history? I think it's possible....

    That's why I think they just need to raise the first class letter to $1.00 (still a bargain) and renegotiate all the final mile rates. Raise them 50% and USPS could be solvent in a short time. It would still be cheaper than building another final mile system.

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mission16 said:

    @GotTheBug said:
    The Post Office relies heavily on parcel deliveries to try to "stay afloat" in the face of the declining volume of first class mail. Will there come a day when the USPS is history? I think it's possible....

    That's why I think they just need to raise the first class letter to $1.00 (still a bargain) and renegotiate all the final mile rates. Raise them 50% and USPS could be solvent in a short time. It would still be cheaper than building another final mile system.

    USPS would be solvent now if they weren't required by law to pre-fund retirements 50 years in advance. No other company does this.

    AS far as "the last mile", the USPS is required by law to serve every street, every resident, six days a week. It's a win-win for the USPS, FedEx, UPS, and DHL.

    Amazon has warehouses all over the US. They themselves deliver packages every day to local post offices for delivery that day and by agreement, the USPS also delivers Amazon packages on Sunday.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GotTheBug said:
    The Post Office relies heavily on parcel deliveries to try to "stay afloat" in the face of the declining volume of first class mail. Will there come a day when the USPS is history? I think it's possible....

    Nope. The last mile mandate is important to the US. Look at a map and figure out how much of the country (not population) is say 2 hours outside of a major city. It's a different world out there and enough senators have parts of their state that qualifies to keep the USPS in some kind of role.

    Could it get very expensive? Sure... the USPS as a quasi-private company is also supposed to break even.

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