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A coin I wanted at the SB auction sold for really cheap.....

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

....because I logged in to bid 4pm PST, not EST. :s:'(

"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, it's totally not confusing that Sessions 1-3 are listed in Eastern time and Sessions 4-5 are listed in Pacific time! :mrgreen:

  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I logged in at the correct time, but even with some very aggressive bidding got completely blown out of the water on some tokens I was chasing. :(

    I'm addicted to exonumia ... it is numismatic crack!

    ANA LM

    USAF Retired — 34 years of active military service! 🇺🇸
  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even worse - it might have still sold for really cheap even if you had logged in at the correct time!

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just got to Baltimore. Show starts tomorrow. When's the first session?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭

    I lost all 11 lots I was bidding on (mainly Bolen pieces). Almost decided to pull the trigger on the last one but it sold for like a lot more than it should have...this felt a little like the Newman sale a few years ago...because of the provenance of the coins, they sold for a bunch more than they would have otherwise sold for and I decided (like then) to abstain ;)

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2017 6:51PM

    I won a Bolen token. I can't provide a link but it was the one before the silver. I'll post it later as I'm on my phone and it's hard to post links now. It was the beautiful r/b one

  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    I won a Bolen token. I can't provide a link but it was the one before the silver. I'll post it later as I'm on my phone and it's hard to post links now. It was the beautiful r/b one

    I liked this one A LOT! I think the nicest of them, congrats for digging deep into the pocket. I chickened out :blush:

    https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-7KKEP

  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    That's for posting the link....that's the one. Sure is a pretty one B)

    I don't even collect Bolen tokens and that one caught my eye...congrats on what looks like a great pickup!

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, talk about your beard detail! Congrats Stef. A beautiful addition.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The CWT's struck over US and foreign coins went way too cheap!

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ouch!

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice score, Stef. I love it, and you can't ask for better provenance! I think the silver Bolen piece went cheaply. At least in comparison to the silver one last year that went for nearly $10k!
    But that's exonumia for you... You got to step up or shut up when a rare piece crosses the block. Some of these come up once in a lifetime.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2017 9:13PM

    @DCW said:
    Nice score, Stef. I love it, and you can't ask for better provenance! I think the silver Bolen piece went cheaply. At least in comparison to the silver one last year that went for nearly $10k!
    But that's exonumia for you... You got to step up or shut up when a rare piece crosses the block. Some of these come up once in a lifetime.

    I think one reason is that the silver piece last year was 100%, no debate, Bolen's singular example (he scribed the edges of his coins and that one was scribed), while the silver piece that sold today did not have his markings leaving some to believe there might be more out there (and even perhaps Bolen's original piece). Anyhow...that was just my take on it, I almost bid on that piece but had to stop myself as I'm >50% convinced that a new piece (with Bolen's markings) will come to market in the next 2-3 years.

    PS. Meanwhile, I finally got a few grades to post and among them was an (1862) Brass JAB-4 Bolen Medal Arsenal Without Sun, PCGS MS63, and an (1862) Brass JAB-5 Bolen Medal Young America, PCGS MS64 ... can't wait to see Phil's images of the coins :)

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Nice score, Stef. I love it, and you can't ask for better provenance! I think the silver Bolen piece went cheaply. At least in comparison to the silver one last year that went for nearly $10k!
    But that's exonumia for you... You got to step up or shut up when a rare piece crosses the block. Some of these come up once in a lifetime.

    Can anyone post a link to the above sale?

    I tried searching using the Stacks app, but it has challenges and they never fixed any of the multitude of bugs since it was released.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2017 6:10AM
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, but I was looking for the one that sold for almost $10k.

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice token.....I see it was ex Les Heilbronner. Les was a local guy here and a fine dealer, always willing to share his knowledge. He sure knew his copper. I was set up next to him at shows quite often. Back in the late 70's and 80's anyway. He could quote you a Sheldon number from across the room.
    I remember being so happy picking up Fugios for 38 or 40 dollars, knowing I could sell them to Les for 45 !!!

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:

    @pruebas said:

    Thanks, but I was looking for the one that sold for almost $10k.

    I think it's this one
    http://www.civilwartokens.com/Listing/Details/1734186/621-Bolen-JAB35-Silver-Raw-MS65-Silver-1869-Store-Card

    That's the one. Estimated at $1500-$2000 , and it hammered North of $9k.
    Methinks auction fever took hold of at least two bidders. (It happens to the best of us!)

    I like Bolen's work alot, but I focus on Merriam who is still somewhat under the radar. Bolen prices have skyrocketed.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WDP said:
    I knew collector / dealer Steve Tanenbaum (who owned many of the tokens in this Stack's sale) and talked to him fairly regularly. Many of the tokens that he had in his personal collection "were the best he could find in 50 years."

    Very true.
    Some of these tokens very rarely trade hands, and when you see something with the Tanenbaum pedigree, you just have to believe it is the finest known. If something better was out there, it would have made its way into his collection. The man scoured bourse floors all over the country for years and years.

    Here are my two pieces I picked up for my Merriam collection:
    Merriam storecard, NGC MS65RB ex. Tanenbaum, George Fuld
    A rare Charlestown piece by Merriam. Dunn & Co. Oyster House NGC MS64BN ex.Bowers, Tanenbaum, probably Fuld. Amazingly preserved. Ive never seen another in mint state and only a few that were circulated with problems. Happy to add this beauty to my collection:

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • WDPWDP Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW, I love the "Brattle Square" location on the token!

    W. David Perkins Numismatics - http://www.davidperkinsrarecoins.com/ - 25+ Years ANA, ANS, NLG, NBS, LM JRCS, LSCC, EAC, TAMS, LM CWTS, CSNS, FUN

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was Steve Tannenbaum the guy that was hit by a car being driven by a 'bad guy' ?
    I seem to remember something like that.....

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He wasn't just "some guy." Rather, he was a man known for an encyclopedic knowledge of most all exonumia, and he amassed a huge collection of high quality and rare tokens and medals.
    Tragically, he was struck on his bicycle as a suspect fled from police in a motor vehicle.
    And the hobby lost a good man with a real passion.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun .... Very nice token Stef... Congratulations... Cheers, RickO

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2017 12:51PM

    Nice tokens everyone!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2017 10:12AM

    I will say that exonumania is coming above the waterline now and people are noticing it (myself included). This thread and several others here in the last 6 months evidence this. And also a relatively small (in size) sale has created this much stir. As @DCW told me last night, some of these pieces are "gateway" pieces into this world (ie. referencing gateway drug parallel). LOL but it's so true! I have quietly dropped $10k+ on this stuff just in the past 2 months, which is huge for me in terms of spend on non traditional coinage.

    So lookers beware... you are entering the Twilight Zone and will never be the same once you buy one of these cool pieces.

  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was quite surprised by the sale of this token, obviously quite important to those who collect these --

    Offered raw, with SBG's grading opinion of VF20, this piece realized $16,450!

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cardinal said:
    I was quite surprised by the sale of this token, obviously quite important to those who collect these --

    Offered raw, with SBG's grading opinion of VF20, this piece realized $16,450!

    Looks much better than VF 20 to me. Just sayin'....

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember talking to Steve about some of the cool do/fo tokens he had, thinking they would never come available.

    Even though I now own several, it's really disappointing to have missed out on the recent offerings. :'(

    Stef - nice token! :+1:

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.

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