CFA (and CCAC) recommendations for 2019 & 2020 NA Dollar and 2019 Apollo Commems
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(See this post below for the CCAC recommendation.)
Coin World has an article up on the Commission of Fine Art's recommendations for the 2019 and 2020 Native American dollars, and the 2019 Apollo 11 Commems.
Commission of Fine Arts recommends designs for Native American dollars, Apollo 11 coins
I think the following quote says it all:
That vote seemed to symbolize how far the commission was willing to go to meet the wishes of groups that had helped the U.S. Mint create designs for the six new coins reviewed at the CFA’s meeting.
2019 Native American Dollar:
2020 Native American Dollar:
2019 Apollo 11 Commemoratives:
The set will consist of a gold $5 coin, a silver dollar, a copper-nickel clad half dollar and a Proof 5-ounce silver dollar, the first such commemorative coin of that weight.
Comments
That 2019 design is terrible.
I wonder if they can jam anything else into that 2019 design. Artistic merit is zero.
In an attempt to constructively criticize the above selections.... they are terrible... Crowded, lacking in artistic merit and typical of 'design by committee' selections. Unbelievable.... Cheers, RickO
I think the Apollo coin was trying to duplicate this image.
Now I understand why there is little detail on the coin. Looked out of focus to me the first I saw.
2019 items are not bad. the depictions are over-thought. An arrow? Really? An arrow. The hands on the rim are cheezy.
I also think the details on the service structure won't be fully depicted on the coin. I'll see.
The helmet reflection designs are intriguing. The NA $1 designs are horrible. All that's missing from the 2019 is a thought bubble above the astronaut showing, "Wheee! I'm floating!" in Comic Sans.
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Also, I'm lost on the equation.
Additionally, a written formula of that time period would use superscript and subscript nor the asterisk, but, if anything, a dot instead.
Not even a dot. And she wouldn't have spelled out pi, but would have used the greek symbol. They're using modern computer notations, even though there's a slide rule next to her, lol.
Design by committee. Total failure.
I like the "Whee! I'm floating!" balloon, though...
That's the first thing I noticed as well. I am reminded that we as a country can no longer send a man into space, much less revisit the moon.
The NA designs are horrible. I will not be a buyer.
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I have NO idea what the mathematical formula means. It is NOT one of Newton's three laws, which would have been the most logical mathematical formula to include with regards to spaceflight. Also, due to where the woman's chest is in relation to the formula I can't tell if the designer meant to use the Greek symbol rho followed by an i, or whether they meant to spell out PI, which seems silly, as almost invariably pi is spelled out as the single Greek letter.
FWIW, in the first coin design, the rocket at about 9 o'clock is an Atlas-Agena, which predominantly would have been used during the Gemini era (1965 - 1966). The spacewalker at about 1 o'clock is in a spacesuit from the Shuttle and/or ISS period, e.g. 1981 - present. Almost invariably, when the spacesuited figure is used, NASA uses a specific number of stars to "tell" where they are in the sequence of spacewalks. Each NASA program that had a spacewalk added a star to the patch, e.g. there are now 5 stars on the EVA patches showing EVA's were done during the: Gemini, Apollo, Skylab, Shuttle and ISS programs. So, having all the stars on the reverse is also a hopeless mess. It's a pity, as one or two designs on the reverse, such as the reverse of the Washington - Ohio state quarter, could be functional and/or attractive.
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Maybe show the moon from orbit with the lander ascending. Need a focal point on the coin, just too much going on in the design. I will probably pass. The coin design is just not there.
Any of the images of the coins attached below would work well. Are there any real artists on that committee?
If Teddy Roosevelt were alive today he would probably fire them all.
I wish they would do the nine planets and the solar system with the gold being the sun which they scraped in 2008.
https://space.com/1324-house-votes-mint-nasa-coins.html
Box of 20
Anthing....ANYTHING....even a simple depiction of "Earthrise" would have worked better than this deplorable design.! I know that this image is from the Apollo 8 mission and not Apollo 11....but it would still make a better looking design than what is being considered. Is there any explanation of what the 14 stars represent or is that just a random design inclusion?
Really? How about Sentinel and Optimus Prime (or just an Autobot logo) on the dark side of the commem? (That's a Transformers movie reference...)
It could always be worse...
this would be an appropriate equation. I'm leaving it here for later. It is used for transferring between orbits. I read she worked on interplanetary ideas, too.
vf2 = vi2 + Δv2 + 2vi Δv cos β
wow how disappointing- was really looking forward to the Apollo coins..not so much now..
WTF. Nowhere near the way it was. Cram it all in, re-write history. The lander leg is a joke. Whoever approved this possibility should be fired, removed, deleted. MHO.
It was Congress that mandated the terms for this coin, including the cup shape and that the convex side must show an image of the famous visor reflection photo.
Yet ANOTHER thing to blame Congress for! ;-)
Huh. The Apollo 11 commems hit the MSM:
US Mint reveals proposed designs for 'tails side' of Apollo 11 50th anniversary Coins
Yep. It's the tails side, I think...
Coin World is reporting the CCAC recommendations. They rejected the CFA 2019 NA dollar design. Their recommendation (which imho is a much better design):
They also recommended the 2020 NA dollar design:
Original article here:
Coin World: Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee coin design picks differ from CFA
The CCAC is also pushing a 1/10 ozt 24k AmLib coin. At a price between $200 and $300, “It’s going to be a big seller,” predicted Mary Lannin, CCAC chair. A 1/10 ozt proof AGE is $180.
I think the CCAC needs a dose of reality. Both the coin and the medal are struggling, even as the premier 225th anniversary product. We'll see what happens with the 4 medal set. But who's calling for a small gold coin in the same design?