Hype Verbage - Got any examples?

19Lyds · September 2, 2015 8:09AM

I came across one today.

".............and high end About Uncirculated examples are rare."

UncleJoe · September 2, 2015 8:47AM

58+?

Joe.

TigersFan2 · September 2, 2015 9:34AM

1. There are more than a few sellers that sell common-date cleaned Morgans in 2x2s with words like RARE, KEY DATE and MS+++++ written all over the 2x2. Unfortunately they appear to regularly sell $20 Morgans for $40 although if you look at their feedback, a few people do ding them for cleaned coins.

2. The other hype that I see is with wheat penny rolls. First, most claimed "unsearched" but I guarantee that sometime somewhere those wheat pennies have been searched over quite a bit. Second, many of them will put a non-wheat penny (Indian head penny, Mercury Dime, jewelry condition gold coin) and include some bull story about buying rolls from some guy who kept his coin collection in random rolls and anything could be in the roll. I guarantee that they know exactly what they put in the roll. They even will put a VDB reverse and suggest it could be a 1909-S VDB or a 1916 Mercury and suggest it could be a 1916-D. Dishonesty. Yet, looking at the bids (and their negative feedback), people fall for their hype and bid these dishonest auctions up.

Coinosaurus · September 2, 2015 1:55PM

"Double nuclear white hot" is the classic example.

AnkurJ · September 2, 2015 2:32PM

lava · September 2, 2015 3:49PM

Love that list AnkurJ.

Twobitcollector · September 2, 2015 7:44PM

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WOW does that bring back memories

coinkat · September 2, 2015 8:27PM

I see a diference between about and almost. About seems to be more of an estimate... and used in conjunction with uncirculated seems to be unreasonable because almost makes the distinction that the coin is clearly not uncirculated.

I use Almost Uncirculated instead of about uncirculated.

TwoSides2aCoin · September 2, 2015 9:40PM

"It is what it is" and some people would complain that "IT" is not as described.

oih82w8 · September 2, 2015 10:59PM

"Finest Known" is used a little too loosely, especially when I have one in my collection. I usually send a little note to the seller saying that the population figures get updated periodically. I know of at least one instance where the seller placed "was" in front of "Finest Known" with no further explanation. Or Finest Known "non attributed"...it was for a 1921-D Morgan Dot Wing VAM 3A.

Overdate · September 3, 2015 11:39AM

I've never $$$een any hype verbiage, but I haven't really been L@@King that hard.

abcde12345 · May 30, 2017 9:26AM

"Second to none" could mean the coin is in third place!

steveben · May 30, 2017 10:14AM

i like the idea of calling a coin by it's numismatic phrase number...for example, "this coin is 911"

RogerB · May 30, 2017 1:55PM

The challenge is to find a description that is clear, accurate and truthful.

PQueue · May 30, 2017 2:04PM

Opportunity knocks loud here!

mannie gray · May 30, 2017 3:11PM

@TwoSides2aCoin said:
"It is what it is" and some people would complain that "IT" is not as described.

"That depends on what the definition of 'is' is."

Weiss · May 30, 2017 3:19PM

Pick any of my sale listings

FallGuy · May 30, 2017 3:46PM

"Uncirculated Franklin halves with this date/mintmark combination are extremely rare".

Does that qualify??

ShadyDave · May 30, 2017 6:40PM

Calling a coin "Fresh" makes me laugh. I like high quality coins but I could care less if they were slabbed yesterday, are being flipped or have been in a "family collection" for 100 years. As long as it is not messed with and nice for the grade/series and date/type then that is all that really matters to me.

http://www.coinweek.com/us-coins/concept-freshness-numismatics/

topstuf · May 30, 2017 6:45PM

That's as bad as the grading criteria I invented in the 70s.

Seller's grading:
AG ...........Somewhat round but completely smooth
G ........... Mostly round, a trace of design is present
VG .........Round, identifiable
F ..........Date discernible, design smooth
VF ..........Details begin to show
XF ......... Full rim, lettering is readable
AU ............Some high points show
Unc ............Some luster or "shine", most of high points are not smooth.

Buyer's grading:

AG ..........All details and high points are clear and bold
G ...........Some mint luster, almost new
VG .........Full blazing luster, everything is bold
F .............Blazing luster with mint "frost"
VF .......... As above with no bag marks
XF ...........Blazing luster, full mint frost, no bag marks, field must have mirror finish, pristine and superlative
AU ...... Coin will draw blood if touched on high points
Unc......... Imaginary condition. If coin has left mint, it is circulated.

ColonelJessup · May 31, 2017 5:27AM

Coruscating lustre
Hammered strike
Exquisite
Sublime
Gorgeous
Inconsequential
Distinctive
Pretty
Virtually
Rarely seen

My all-time favorite, EAC excluded, "Interesting die cracks"

ricko · May 31, 2017 5:38AM

As in most sales arena's, hype is mandatory. When one's focus is on any particular segment (i.e. coins) then one becomes familiar with the commonly used phrases. Rarely does new terms enter into the domain. If such does occur, then it quickly gets posted here for all to laugh and discuss. Such occurrences, though uncommon, are quite enjoyable. For me, show me the coin, shut up and let me examine it. Cheers, RickO

ColonelJessup · May 31, 2017 5:40AM

@abcde12345 said:
"Second to none" could mean the coin is in third place!

Race between an American horse and a Russian horse.
American horse wins.
Putin announces the Russian horse came in 2nd, the American horse next to last

Jimnight · May 31, 2017 5:49AM

Monster toning

topstuf · May 31, 2017 7:29AM

Where's my hunnerd bucks?

ElmerFusterpuck · May 31, 2017 8:11AM

"Population of only 2 with this grade at PCGS!!!" Then you see it's a graded 1963-D cent in XF-45, wowsers.

messydesk · May 31, 2017 8:28AM

@ColonelJessup said:
Coruscating lustre

I had forgotten about this one. Is it no longer in vogue, or have I just stopped reading lot descriptions altogether?

ColonelJessup · May 31, 2017 9:54AM

@CoinsAndMoreCoins said:
Almost everything typed by a certain arrogant and pontificating windbag savant that frequents this forum when he speaks of his grading and numismatic expertise which is presented to be so amazing one must wonder how any TPG's or mere collectors manage to even breathe without his oversight, instructions and approval.

Rumor has it, our hosts pay him 100 dollars plus parts and labor for each post he makes here.

Mr Willis pays me $10 for every post i don't make. Steady work

ColonelJessup · May 31, 2017 10:31AM

@FallGuy said:
"Uncirculated Franklin halves with this date/mintmark combination are extremely rare".

Does that qualify??

Preceded by "Due to such massive quantities having been melted in the great Silver Rushes of the past 50+ years, Uncirculated ....

abcde12345 · May 31, 2017 12:21PM

Remember second place means you're the first to lose.

QCCoinGuy · May 31, 2017 12:43PM

"Scintillating luster" -- Great word. Whether it's over-hyped or not is subjective. Certainly paints a picture, so I use it from time to time.

ctf_error_coins · May 31, 2017 12:52PM

I honestly get to say, Rare, Extremely Rare, One-of-a-Kind, Unique, Fantastic Eye Appeal, on many of the coins I sell.

ChrisH821 · May 31, 2017 1:53PM

"Gem BU" - Often used by ebay sellers to describe their AU coins

KellenCoin · May 31, 2017 2:22PM

I myself was guilty of this a few times. I had a Canadian Loon that was tied for second finest known with 5 other coins and behind 17 other coins in the next grade up. In an effort to get rid of it, I listed it simply as "second finest known"

AUandAG · May 31, 2017 3:02PM

I'm tired of "estate find" on Morgan dollars. Do you know, personally or via anyone else, that knows someone that got a new silver Morgan dollar when it was issued that is still alive and still has the coin today? Nah, didn't think so. As far as I'm concerned that's as big a hype you can find. All Morgan dollars are from estates.
bob;)

TopographicOceans · May 31, 2017 3:12PM

L@@K

AmazonX · May 31, 2017 3:21PM

My absolute favorite is "carbon spots are present for easy identification/provence". And there's a big old honking spot on the coin.

AmazonX · May 31, 2017 3:22PM

@TopographicOceans said:
L@@K

Got flashbacks to Ebay circa 1998.

roadrunner · May 31, 2017 3:54PM

@ShadyDave said:
Calling a coin "Fresh" makes me laugh. I like high quality coins but I could care less if they were slabbed yesterday, are being flipped or have been in a "family collection" for 100 years. As long as it is not messed with and nice for the grade/series and date/type then that is all that really matters to me.

It makes me laugh even more when a coin off the market for 5.0-9.9 years is considered stale....while the same at 10.0 yrs would be Grade A USDA FRESH.

roadrunner · May 31, 2017 3:54PM

How about "in the top 5%" of the grade?

Then you check the pop reports and there are only 6 coins graded. Fuzzy math.

Alt ID's are back again.

10000lakes · May 31, 2017 4:25PM

bigly - as in this hugeee Morgan dollar has bigly deep mirrors

WillieBoyd2 · May 31, 2017 4:34PM

"Escaped from the melting pot"

Hype Verbage - Got any examples?

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