Anyone have a link to or can post a side by side comparison of the '64 Accented
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and non accented hair Kennedy varieties? Need to know what and where to look. Thanks,
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The lower portion of the I in LIBERTY is missing as well on the Accented Hair variety.
...and the link;
http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/6801
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HI. As you are probably aware, accented hair is only found on 1964 Proofs.
Believe it or not, I think the easiest way to attribute the accented hair is by looking at the lower serifs on the I in LIBERTY!
Accented hairs have a broken lower left serif on the I. I think this will help you find these much quicker than looking at hair strands. then once you find one compare the hair to one with intact serifs = regular hair!
How about the skin on the neck? It seems to be more detailed oriented and almost finger print like compare to normal strike/ hair.
Although this is a cool variety, and I like it, I don't understand why there is such a premium.
Except in CAM+/DCAM, they aren't really that scarce.
If desired, you can cherrypick at least one at any show, even smaller ones.
Many years ago, before these were commonly known, a dealer friend of mine gave me a "tell" that made it easy for me to spot these.
He told me to look for the "antlers" in the hair above the ear.
If you can see that image, you can spot them from 10 feet away.
A slight exaggeration maybe, but not really that much of one.
I love this variety! Underrated, I think? Esp. in a high DCAM.
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Thanks for the info and will now try to cherry pick myself! Wonder what my odds are on about 50 sets.
bob
I think the story of how these came to be, is part of the allure.
Certainly tough in DCAM. Otherwise, I would disagree with the underrated description.
Easiest diagnostic I think is the missing lower left serif on the "I". Also note the difference in detail on the side-burn. There is a diagnostic on the reverse as well, the rays are weaker in the area below the banner compared to non-AH:
Photos from PCGS images
I've read that odds are about 1 in 100, so you've likely got one in there somewhere. I just picked one at the last coin show I went to, they are out there. Good Luck!
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You have to have the broken ray at the Star on the reverse, there are some that have the missing serif but are not a full accent hair. Dang, I miss Russ.
Don't use the reverse as your definitive tell though. Because there are non-accented hair Kennedy's with the accented hair reverse. Commonly referred to as the "Type 1" or "Transitional" reverse.
To be SURE - use the obverse of the coin only. Easiest tell (as stated above) is the "I" in "Liberty." And in the proper light, the "antlers" can in fact be seen a mile away, as @mannie gray stated.
As an aside, interestingly - and not really pursued, are the "pointed 9" Roosevelt dimes. These are much smaller in number, and do occur as proof as well as mint state coins. BUT - the pointed 9 proof dimes are ONLY found in the proof sets which contain the Accent Hair Kennedy.
So - if you find an original proof set with an AH Kennedy, check the dime. You MAY have found a pointed 9. Odds are small.
Here's one of mine POINTED
Here's one of mine NOT POINTED
more info
pointed - https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-varieties/roosevelt-dimes-die-varieties/1964-d-pointed-9-10c-2032/
blunt - https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-varieties/roosevelt-dimes-die-varieties/1964-d-blunt-9-10c-2033/
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Interesting that you point that out, I was unaware of that and checked the set I have with the accent hair half and it appears that it also contains the pointed 9 dime, it certainly isn't square at the end.
Collector, occasional seller
Yep! If it wasn't for Miss Jackie O, this variety would not exist.
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.I have many of the AH Kennedy's... I was unaware of the 'pointed 9' variety, I must check my sets. I can spot the AH a long ways away... The I in Liberty is always a secondary check for me... having competed with Russ at coin shows for these sets, I got quite good at spotting them. We had a friendly competition going while I lived there. He had many, many more than I did... Cheers, RickO
Thanks for all of the info.
Here is one of the dcams I pried away from Russ (his photo). Been cherrypicking these for years, including the pointed 9 dimes.
Unfortunately, I don't see much of a premium for nice pointed 9 dimes, so maybe they will be appreciated more in the future.
For comparison, here is a non-accented hair. Another pickup point on the reverse was the left and right point on the shield was not struck fully.
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Pointed 9 dimes ? Who knew? Totally cool! Been at this a long time never picked up on this until this thread!
Thanks for the great info.