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Why the price differential? 1863 3CS

stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 15, 2017 3:59PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes! All the later date 3 cent silvers are more common in proof. I hope I didn't misstate your intention as I assumed and don't have time to open the links!

  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Yes! All the later date 3 cent silvers are more common in proof. I hope I didn't misstate your intention as I assumed and don't have time to open the links!

    One is an AU58 and the other is an MS64. The AU58 sold for almost double that of the 64.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,099 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2017 6:47PM

    It could be the influence of the PCGS Set Registry "Everyman" Collections, which do not allow grades above AU-58:
    https://pcgs.com/SetRegistry/everyman-collections/two-three-cents/everyman-three-cent-silvers-1851-1872/2563
    I suppose with this type of price inflation, the top sets may no longer affordable by "everyman" anymore? :)

    Twice in recent auction records, 1863 AU-58 specimens sold for more than MS-65 and even MS-66 specimens:
    https://pcgs.com/auctionPrices/details/1863-ms/3682/3682

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ahha! That's what I deal with with my Barber Half's! A couple of my 58's I could've bought a 66 for!

    @stealer said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Yes! All the later date 3 cent silvers are more common in proof. I hope I didn't misstate your intention as I assumed and don't have time to open the links!

    One is an AU58 and the other is an MS64. The AU58 sold for almost double that of the 64.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In addition to the over-all rarity of the coins (as few as 3,000 mintage and most melted in 1874), there are also very few certified in circulated grades.

    1 @ XF40
    1 @ AU50
    3 @ AU53
    2 @ AU55
    3 @ AU58

    out of 98 certified

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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭

    Hijack this thread a little bit. The 1868 3cs is another extremely case. You can take a look the auction prices vs. PCGS guide price. You can also see AU58 1868 3cs price. Many AU58 have higher hammered prices than 63 or 64 could realize.

    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,099 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2017 7:32PM

    It makes me wonder if people have been tempted to crack out an MS-64, rub it a little, and resubmit hoping for an AU-58.
    It has been discussed here before (2013 thread):
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/893030/1897-s-barber-half-au58-or-ms66

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2017 8:57PM

    Eye appeal would be my answer...a year difference between the auctions could definitely play a factor as well as the audience.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting... I would prefer the 64 coin.... especially at the more reasonable price.... :) Cheers, RickO

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Interesting... I would prefer the 64 coin.... especially at the more reasonable price.... :) Cheers, RickO

    Which is pretty much how it is for low mintage Philly half dimes, dimes, quarters of the 1863-1869 period.

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