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What does "new" mean ?

GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

I recently saw a description by Doug Winter on his site for a liberty gold eagle that stated the coin was truly a new coin with full luster, pleasing green gold toning over unabraded surfaces. What does he mean by using the word "new"? Thanks

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2017 5:02AM

    New means unused. In the case of a coin it means that the coin is in mint state or uncirculated condition (no wear and has never been used in circulation).

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    coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me it means it's been off the market for a long time.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinnut said:
    To me it means it's been off the market for a long time.

    Or, it could mean new to his inventory.

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    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with coinnut and PerryHall....Either new to market or new to inventory. Cheers, RickO

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NEW: Appearing, thought of, discovered, made, etc. for the first time.

    There are other definitions also. Looks like "new" can mean almost anything. IMO, that is a very confusing word to use when grading a coin. Sorta like the description "Uncirculated w/rub." I've got some "new" coins in my collection. All of them are scratched and baggy; yet they are "new."

    Perhaps the best thing is to ask Doug and let us know. Ask him to put a Mint State grade on it.

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    jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could mean all of these things but In this context I think he probably means "as in unused"...

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    ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭

    New = fresh to the market after many years.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonruns said:
    Could mean all of these things but In this context I think he probably means "as in unused"...

    Could be, yet "new" is a weasel word. My "unused" coins are, baggy and scratched, with a little "cabinet friction" for good measure.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Without reading the exact wording in the description, to me, he's saying..."unlike a vast majority of MS coins that are really AU55-58, this one is actually a MS coin [ and worthy of a premium as such]"

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2017 9:57AM

    @PerryHall said:
    it could mean new to his inventory.

    He generally uses new to mean new inventory and new purchase on his website. His site uses "NEW" in both "NEW INVENTORY" and to label each new purchase on his site. He also uses "Newps" on his homepage, shorthand for new purchase.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:
    Without reading the exact wording in the description, to me, he's saying..."unlike a vast majority of MS coins that are really AU55-58, this one is actually a MS coin [ and worthy of a premium as such]"

    +1

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