Home U.S. Coin Forum
Options

What happened to this coin?

Hey, probably a stupid question but what the heck happened here? I think it's obviously PMD but how on earth would they have done this? It has scratches like it's been circulated... Any ideas?

Comments

  • Options
    UnclePennyBagsUnclePennyBags Posts: 327 ✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2017 9:51PM

    It looks to me like it was mounted on something... Maybe a money clip? The 4 marks on the back look like prong settings

    Successful trades.... MichaelDixon,

  • Options
    UnclePennyBagsUnclePennyBags Posts: 327 ✭✭✭

    The obverse would then be from pocket friction after years if it was a money clip it was mounted in

    Successful trades.... MichaelDixon,

  • Options
    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's so obvious. Intergalactic aliens from zone Zargon warp Z°~<° are messing with the hobby. Human collector bots must band together to resist the TROLLIAN invasion.

  • Options
    Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭

    UnclePennyBags I would have never thought about that! Nice one! I could see that happening.

  • Options
    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Spartcom5, I agree with you. IT IS A STUPID QUESTION!

  • Options
    Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2017 10:19PM

    Ok cool, thanks for the input.

  • Options
    AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's kind of neat.

  • Options
    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2017 11:27PM

    Goodnight.

  • Options
    air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 823 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks like someone did some tooling around. I see a flat spot on the rim at 2 O'clock like it's been squeezed. The obverse shows a lot of tool marks all in the same direction. Possible whizzing, and polishing. Somehow material was removed with a tool. I don't think pocket friction would reflect a pattern of tool mark lines in parallel directions. . Maybe someone with experience in this will help out. I'm curious as well.

  • Options
    UnclePennyBagsUnclePennyBags Posts: 327 ✭✭✭

    @air4mdc said:
    Looks like someone did some tooling around. I see a flat spot on the rim at 2 O'clock like it's been squeezed. The obverse shows a lot of tool marks all in the same direction. Possible whizzing, and polishing. Somehow material was removed with a tool. I don't think pocket friction would reflect a pattern of tool mark lines in parallel directions. . Maybe someone with experience in this will help out. I'm curious as well.

    I've taken several out of money clips.... I'd put $100 bet on it but you see what you want to see

    Successful trades.... MichaelDixon,

  • Options
    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Spartcom5 .... actually, that is a very good question. It is an unusually well worn Kennedy half. The suggestion of being part of a money clip is very good if it were also carried in a pocket with a lot of change. The fact that the edge is worn down to the copper in one area is indicative of positional wear - i.e. it maintained the same, or relatively the same, position while the wear was taking place. This might be more indicative of belt buckle wear.... Cheers, RickO

  • Options
    UnclePennyBagsUnclePennyBags Posts: 327 ✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2017 5:01AM

    @ricko said:
    @Spartcom5 .... actually, that is a very good question. It is an unusually well worn Kennedy half. The suggestion of being part of a money clip is very good if it were also carried in a pocket with a lot of change. The fact that the edge is worn down to the copper in one area is indicative of positional wear - i.e. it maintained the same, or relatively the same, position while the wear was taking place. This might be more indicative of belt buckle wear.... Cheers, RickO

    I was thinking that but usually see dollar size coins in the buckles and then seems to be a even split between halves and dollars in the money clips.

    Successful trades.... MichaelDixon,

  • Options
    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @UnclePennyBags...I agree, it is unusual to see a half in a belt buckle... but here is one... http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/121754748983 - and another https://www.etsy.com/listing/121092844/kennedy-half-dollar-belt-buckle So they are out there.... Cheers, RickO

  • Options
    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can pcgs still grade it based only on the reverse (or acid date the front)? If so that would be a specially neat coin (unless it works its way into a problem grade).

  • Options
    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    Can pcgs still grade it based only on the reverse (or acid date the front)? If so that would be a specially neat coin (unless it works its way into a problem grade).

    Best case, they'd say a mount was removed, based on the reverse rim damage. The date is 1977. Can't tell if a lump from a D is visible or not. My first reaction to the obverse was that there was a soak in acid involved, but extremely heavy use in a money clip sounds plausible. If @UnclePennyBags has pulled them out of clips in this condition, I won't argue with that.

    I'm a little surprised clad would wear down this much, but perhaps it belonged to someone who got their hands dirty for a living.

  • Options
    MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    Can pcgs still grade it based only on the reverse (or acid date the front)? If so that would be a specially neat coin (unless it works its way into a problem grade).

    No. They won't slab it without a date and what makes you think this would straight grade? :D:D

  • Options
    JBKJBK Posts: 14,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MorganMan94 said:

    @abcde12345 said:
    Can pcgs still grade it based only on the reverse (or acid date the front)? If so that would be a specially neat coin (unless it works its way into a problem grade).

    No. They won't slab it without a date and what makes you think this would straight grade? :D:D

    And another thing....why does everything need to be in a slab? There are actually some coins that should be enjoyed as-is, and this is one of them.

  • Options
    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is one of one. Stand alone. Unique. Have you ever seen another 1977 like this? Neither has pcgs (probably). Does pcgs net grade based on the front being a poor and the back being an extra fine?

  • Options
    JBKJBK Posts: 14,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is post mint damage - that hardly qualifies it for special status other than a curiosity.

  • Options
    Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone! I have it in a 2x2 currently, I knew it was interesting when I saw it!

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file