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A thank you to the Pogues

tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 6, 2017 6:16AM in U.S. Coin Forum

At times, I may have been a bit too critical about certain coins but I have to say that the collection as a whole was my inspiration. I always said that it was the only set that I'd pay to view and I certainly meant it. Thank you, Brent and Mack for all your contributions to numismatic lore!

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here here

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Felicitations!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    High praise indeed..... Cheers, RickO

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't have to be in love with everything to admire it overall as the best early classic collection of the day.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • dbtunrdbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭

    Thinking ahead many, many years, you will have been the inspiration to many new collectors as well. I'm not as up on things as many of the posters here, but you may be the current #1 collector of our time.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quite the collection indeed!

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It really showed a labor of love and an appreciation of quality in key redbook coins from 1839 and before that may never be duplicated. Of course never say never. Quite a father and son accomplishment. Hats off to you gentleman.

  • privaterarecoincollectorprivaterarecoincollector Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still wonder why they sold but Im happy they did. I was able to buy many coins I never even saw in my life before in such quality.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2017 12:49PM

    I like what JK said when describing the experience of cataloging a special coin.

    To him, the Pogue name became an adjective, as in, "That's a Pogue coin".

    Says it all. :+1:

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes. Good is what good is. And then there's great.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And THANK YOU for not spelling it, "The Pouges!" B)

  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭

    PRC: ... Im happy they did [sell]. I was able to buy many coins I never even saw in my life before in such quality.

    So am I, regarding lot viewing, reporting, analyzing and private consulting, this series of auctions was a dream come true for me. Relating to the Pogue Family Coin Collection, I have written far more than 60,000 words, communicated with great collectors, and examined some of the most wonderful U.S. coins of all.

    In addition to thanking the Pogues, I wish to thank people at Stack's-Bowers, specifically Brian Kendrella in California, Christine Karstedt in New Hampshire, and Samantha Douglas in New York. In general, Stack's-Bowers did a wonderful job of making the Pogue Collection coins available not just to me but to all those numismatists who wished to see them.

    Extensive lot viewing arrangements in California and New York plus lot viewing at conventions in Florida, Illinois, Maryland and elsewhere altogether enabled unprecedented viewing opportunities for an epic collection. All the collectors who were able to examine the coins, rich and poor, should be grateful.

    The Marvelous Pogue Family Coin Collection, part 17: Importance of the 4th Sale to Collectors who Cannot Afford the Coins

    "In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbtunr said:
    Thinking ahead many, many years, you will have been the inspiration to many new collectors as well. I'm not as up on things as many of the posters here, but you may be the current #1 collector of our time.

    meh

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbtunr said:
    Thinking ahead many, many years, you will have been the inspiration to many new collectors as well. I'm not as up on things as many of the posters here, but you may be the current #1 collector of our time.

    meh

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbtunr said:
    Thinking ahead many, many years, you will have been the inspiration to many new collectors as well. I'm not as up on things as many of the posters here, but you may be the current #1 collector of our time.

    meh

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    So are they really done with buying coins? Sometimes big collectors sell the collection only to begin again in a different area or even the same area.

    .

    "To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:
    Sometimes when something is overdone, it kills the moment.
    And when someone doesn't have a budget, and is able to overpay for anything they want it runs it for everyone else. I don't look at his collection adding to the hobby, I look at it as taking away from the hobby.
    Having a blank check for anything and everything kills the fun of collecting imho.
    So go ahead and flame away, I am expecting it.

    Most times they had a budget and stuck to it. You really have no basis for your comments other than sour grapes

  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭

    I wish I didn't have a budget.. I may be wrong but I think you'll find most of the time the big whales don't bid just to bid. They expect value for the money spent. I know you can find plenty of examples but most did not get wealthy wasting money. ButI going couple of extra bid increments is done by them and a lot of average collectors. (Except billjones as he keeps getting outbid on average coins.)

    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    It certainly is an impressive collection

  • earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes. I only viewed Pogue 1 and 2. Their early quarter eagle set was amazing. I sat in the front row during the auction with hope of being able to buy just 1 coin but could not compete. Prices were beyond what I imagined. Truly an inspiring set.

  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:
    Sometimes when something is overdone, it kills the moment.
    And when someone doesn't have a budget, and is able to overpay for anything they want it runs it for everyone else. I don't look at his collection adding to the hobby, I look at it as taking away from the hobby.
    Having a blank check for anything and everything kills the fun of collecting imho.
    So go ahead and flame away, I am expecting it.

    I think they worked under constraints, albeit very aggressive ones. I lost several times at auction to them, but managed to outbid them once. Paid a lot of money for the one coin, but am happy with the purchase.

    I'm grateful they were such great stewards of theses coins and let them back into the coin community, creating some buzz.

    You sound like a juvenile complaining that somebody else in your sandbox is playing with a bigger pail.

    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was able to obtain several Bust dimes from the Pogue auctions that I never would have had the opportunity to obtain. Thank you Brent and Mack.

    Easton Collection
  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin said:

    .

    So are they really done with buying coins? Sometimes big collectors sell the collection only to begin again in a different area or even the same area.

    .

    I wondered the same thing.

  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭

    Afford: And when someone doesn't have a budget, and is able to overpay for anything they want it runs it for everyone else. I don't look at his collection adding to the hobby, I look at it as taking away from the hobby. ... Having a blank check for anything and everything kills the fun of collecting imho. ... So go ahead and flame away, I am expecting it.

    I am not flaming. I am publicly putting forth a correction regarding false and misleading information. There was no "blank check"!

    There were limits and coin purchases were subject to accounting procedures. Brent, his father, another family insider, two or three dealer-consultants and others were part of "Team Pogue," as I have been told. There were budgets for each auction, each coin, each series, each year, etc. Once in a while, exceptions were made to spending plans. It was clear, however, to everyone involved that funds were limited and should be allocated in a rational manner that was consistent with the objectives.

    There are hundreds of cases where the Pogues or their appointed agents were outbid at auctions. They also turned down most of the coins that were offered to them, even coins that they very much wanted. In some cases, the same coins were later purchased for prices that were much lower than the initial asking prices, respectively.

    The Marvelous Pogue Family Coin Collection, Part 22: Epic Sales in the Same League

    "In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me

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