Are these bogus grading services or...???
CaliforniaGoldConn
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I bought these from a client, and it's obvious to me the coins are legit, but the grading services seem to a different story. Both have web addresses on the back, and both go nowhere.
Were these a legit 3rd party grading services at one time? I'm thinking of pulling them out and sending them in to the PCGS.
Any info is greatly appreciated!
Bruce Solomon
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I hope you got them around melt.
Never heard of them. Only TPG accepted by ebay is PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG.
I would recommend you crack the coins out and send to PCGS as they are certainly worth paying a grading fee for. The fact the web addresses go nowhere answers your question. Ever seen the movie - Mimic?
I've seen those slabs before. Notice how they try to mimic the look of NGC holders.
Probably "self-slabbed" basement outfit.
Same logo
Same colors
Same fonts
Same same same
Except for ngS and pNgs
Obvious ripoff a of PCGS and NGC
I'd be fearful the coins are also knockoffs
Where did you buy them?
3rd to 4th tier slabs - I pay melt for them
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Thank you for the input, that's about what I figured. I'm going to pop them out and send them in.
Bruce Solomon
Owner of California Gold Connection
eBay Store - Bullion, Coins, Paper Currency
I had one from NGS and it graded 2 points lower than the slab. But that is what I expected.
Only info I could find is they are self slabbers and don't accept submissions from anyone.
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I'm going to start searching for NGS on eBay.
I found about 50 coins that are all NGC with NGS in the title..
I have seen the NGS slabs before ... at coin shows in Seattle... I asked about them here back in 2002 or 2003... was told they were an obscure group then... Cheers, RickO
I have seen both those slabs at different times. I am guess that both coins are AU from the images, if they are in fact authentic.
They should be treated like raw gold. What you also have to consider is that they may be in those holders because there is a problem with the coin.
I am not sure what you got them for, but they look AU
SGS is also a bad company.
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PCGS is the top, NGC is a very distant and bitter second and the rest (others than some periods in ANACS history) are a variation on shite.
Yes any of these slabs made to look like the real one's are normally knock offs. I would be more concerned if the coins are real. There are so many people out there that are buying coins made in China that look very real, they are even doing Morgan's. There are a couple of people on EBAY that are selling coins in knock off holders,they just cover the grade and EBAY allows them to sell them. What a shame EBAY does not put their foot down and keep people like that off their site.
Found this.........................
PNGS
PROFESSIONAL NUMISMATIC GRADING SERVICE
No information on this grading company. Any TPGS without a website, address, phone number or email are usually "self-slabbers" who grade their own coins, sell them, and don't accept submissions from the general public. These companies are not recommended unless one can tell, first-hand, that the coin is authentic, problem free (not cleaned or damaged), and graded appropriately.
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