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I have a few toned Morgans to send in. One has a nice crescent on the reverse. Will PCGS slab a coin reverse side out, and how does one go about requesting it. What are your thoughts on this piece, would you have it slabbed in this manner or not?

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes they will do it on their own, but generally you can write somewhere on the form to holder line items x,y,z, etc. reverse up and they will honor your request.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Use BIG letters. Draw arrows pointing at the note. Do not be shy about making your request obvious.
    It's no guarantee of success, but it tends to be effective.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i have had more than one coin rev side out...without me even requesting it. it's like they read my mind. this coin you have is really nice...i don't see why you would need the rev side out, in this case. i think the obv looks good too...then you flip it over for a colorful surprise.

    is it just me, or do they purposely rotate mexican coins when slabbing them? i have a couple mexican coins, different denoms and composition, that i got slabbed (different submissions) and they came back rotated in the holder about -15 degrees. i have seen them on ebay that way too...weird!
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,471 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i have had more than one coin rev side out...without me even requesting it. it's like they read my mind. this coin you have is really nice...i don't see why you would need the rev side out, in this case. i think the obv looks good too...then you flip it over for a colorful surprise.

    is it just me, or do they purposely rotate mexican coins when slabbing them? i have a couple mexican coins, different denoms and composition, that i got slabbed (different submissions) and they came back rotated in the holder about -15 degrees. i have seen them on ebay that way too...weird! >>



    Maybe Mexican coins are a hair undersized.
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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i have had more than one coin rev side out...without me even requesting it. it's like they read my mind. this coin you have is really nice...i don't see why you would need the rev side out, in this case. i think the obv looks good too...then you flip it over for a colorful surprise. >>




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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,471 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i have had more than one coin rev side out...without me even requesting it. it's like they read my mind. this coin you have is really nice...i don't see why you would need the rev side out, in this case. i think the obv looks good too...then you flip it over for a colorful surprise.

    is it just me, or do they purposely rotate mexican coins when slabbing them? i have a couple mexican coins, different denoms and composition, that i got slabbed (different submissions) and they came back rotated in the holder about -15 degrees. i have seen them on ebay that way too...weird! >>



    If you are displaying the coin, i.e. in a case and you have it purty side up, there is no info as to year, mm ,grade, etc. unless you take the time to turn the coin over.
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very Simple -

    On the submission
    flip itself, just write,
    or put a good sticker
    on, that just says:

    '' REVERSE UP"

    That's all you need to do.

    (it's not called reverse 'out',
    it's called reverse 'up', as
    as far as the holder goes)
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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    If you are displaying the coin, i.e. in a case and you have it purty side up, there is no info as to year, mm ,grade, etc. unless you take the time to turn the coin over. >>



    yours is an excellent point.
  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    That is a beautiful coin. They should absolutley not slab a coin reverse side out unless specifically requested. If you want it reverse out though go for it. image
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Easy, just submit a shield cent and they'll slab it reverse up no matter what whether you like it or not!!!! image



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  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Very Simple - On the submission flip itself, just write, or put a good sticker on, that just says: '' REVERSE UP" >>



    I recently had a 1901 Morgan DDR slabbed Reverse Up. I also specified it on the submission form just to be safe and to leave a written record in case it came back "obverse up" and needed reholdering...

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Use BIG letters. Draw arrows pointing at the note. Do not be shy about making your request obvious.
    It's no guarantee of success, but it tends to be effective. >>




    image That worked for me in the past!
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I now see this thread shortly after mailing out my package to our hosts.
    I just cracked and sent this coin in raw:

    I made no notes as to wanting it reverse up, but put it in the flip reverse up.

    Do you guys think they'll slab it reverse up going on this info?
    (The obv is white) pretty, but white...

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    asheland, You had better call customer service and request it. Not a given that they would assume color up.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, in all probability they will
    place the Obv. side up in the holder.

    For anyone who wants the REVERSE of
    their coin showing on the front of the
    holder, you just need to put:

                          REV. UP

    on the actual 2.5 x 2.5 submission flip itself.

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2017 11:09AM

    This thread reactivation is timely. Curious how many others noticed that the 1861-P Paquet Reverse $20 featured on David Hall's currently running video clip is displayed Reverse Up in its new PCGS holder. (It was also displayed Reverse Up in it former NGC holder as well.) To see the coin as it was previously slabbed by NGC head to this link:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/975923/the-exciting-1861-paquet-reverse-twenty-dollar-liberties-again-in-the-news#latest

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The package was already in the mail when I saw this thread. :(
    Do you guys think a call to the reps would matter?

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It never hurts to try if you have the time JMO :smile:

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not the end of the world if the white side is up, (the obverse is indeed nice) I would just prefer the reverse up for obvious reasons..

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2017 11:13AM

    @asheland said:
    The package was already in the mail when I saw this thread. :(
    Do you guys think a call to the reps would matter?

    YES! Call them, don't e-mail them, it seems that they are not monitoring the e-mails.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good to know this.
    I have a '78CC Morgan with beautiful peripheral reverse toning and blazing luster, but the obverse is baggy with blah toning. I have it reverse side up in my 7070 album. If I ever submit it, I will request Reverse side up.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll give them a call. Thanks everybody!
    That Paquet Reverse $20 is sweet! I saw the video a few hours ago. :love:

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2017 11:19AM

    @northcoin said:
    This thread reactivation is timely. Curious how many others noticed that the 1861-P Paquet Reverse $20 featured on David Hall's currently running video clip is displayed Reverse Up in its new PCGS holder. (It was also displayed Reverse Up in it former NGC holder as well.) To see the coin as it was previously slabbed by NGC head to this link:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/975923/the-exciting-1861-paquet-reverse-twenty-dollar-liberties-again-in-the-news#latest

    @ asheland Thanks. (Did you get a chance to check out the same coin in the NGC holder as well?)

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ashland, I have found it is better to keep STAR coins in the NGC holder and try for the CAC sticker. Even without CAC, the STAR coin is usually worth more, leaving it in NGC.

    Nice coin!

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2017 11:33AM

    @illini420 said:
    Easy, just submit a shield cent and they'll slab it reverse up no matter what whether you like it or not!!!!

    I'd be pretty freaking angry if they did this without my request. After all this time you'd think they'd have a check box for that on the submission form.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @northcoin said:

    @northcoin said:
    This thread reactivation is timely. Curious how many others noticed that the 1861-P Paquet Reverse $20 featured on David Hall's currently running video clip is displayed Reverse Up in its new PCGS holder. (It was also displayed Reverse Up in it former NGC holder as well.) To see the coin as it was previously slabbed by NGC head to this link:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/975923/the-exciting-1861-paquet-reverse-twenty-dollar-liberties-again-in-the-news#latest

    @ asheland Thanks. (Did you get a chance to check out the same coin in the NGC holder as well?)

    Just saw it now. Absolutely amazing coin!!

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    Ashland, I have found it is better to keep STAR coins in the NGC holder and try for the CAC sticker. Even without CAC, the STAR coin is usually worth more, leaving it in NGC.

    Nice coin!

    I believe you are correct. Unfortunately I already cracked it out. I sent it with a few toned coins to our host.
    I wanted the crystal clear holders as they are quite nice for viewing these beauties. :)

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  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is different, but I have an ICG Sample Slab Buffalo Nickel that has the reverse side out.

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I requested this one reverse out on the form and they honored it. Done it a few times with success every time.


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  • NorCalJackNorCalJack Posts: 591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Personally I am not a fan of the reverse side showing. I have seen some nice coins that I would pass on if they were holdered in that manner.

    I just like the coins to be displayed the same.

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  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For coins with varieties that are on the Rev I like. Ive requested it done to a few morgans I sent in.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2017 9:56PM

    Much as I wanted to cross it I figured it was best to leave it alone.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can have it any way you want it.... not the grade :D but the manner of display.... Just request 'Reverse UP' on the form.... You MAY be able to get it done with a phone call... however, that is not always possible. Cheers, RickO

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a beauty Lance!

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 17, 2017 1:05PM

    @lkeigwin said:
    Much as I wanted to cross it I figured it was best to leave it alone.
    Lance.


    There is something to be said for the pure white surround as opposed to translucent plastic - especially for a coin of color.

    (Now that would be a nice option to also be able to request from PCGS, along with their already willingness to mount the coin "Reverse Up" as ricko noted.)

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is one of the first, if not the first Reverse up slab that I ever owned. 1883-O NGC63★ Wish I knew where it is today !

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  • 1tommy1tommy Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have done this on a few of My Variety Coins................

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