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1982-D Small date bronze graded AU55 by PCGS

EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 8, 2017 9:13PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This is the first 1982-D small date bronze that has been discovered and graded by PCGS. It was recently revealed in Errorscope, the journal of CONECA. The discoverer also wrote an article about how he found it and how he almost didn't find it.

Since this is a transitional coin struck in the same year as the other variants in metal and design, is it a regular issue or a striking error? It is similar to the 1864 with L copper nickel that was an actual circulation strike, not a pattern. However PCGS declined to assign a separate entry for that coin. I think they should. What do you think.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,931 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What were the mint's striking intentions?

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2017 9:56PM

    Here's an article on the 1982-D small date copper cent from Dec 23, 2016 by Ken Potter.

    It could probably be a regular issue or a striking error. In a situation like this, would the Mint staff have cared to match the planchet stock to the die transition, or would they have wanted to use up their copper-alloy stock?

  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting the link Zoins.

    The 1864 with L copper nickel is known by a few rare proofs which are categorized as patterns. There are also a few examples of circulation strikes that are obviously not patterns. Unfortunately most of them are corroded or not gradeable. About 5 years ago Brian Raines found one that was gradeable as it was already graded by NGC as a normal 1864 copper nickel. He broke it out and sent it to PCGS and they didn't want to assign a new coin number to it. He is still hopeful they will change their mind. Maybe now they will.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Currently in an NGC AU58BN holder.

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  • howardshowards Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭

    If this were an intentionally struck variant, I would expect we would have seen a lot more of them by now. So my vote would be that a leftover copper planchet made it into the press along with all of the zinc planchets. So, not a pattern. Either a wrong planchet or a transitional planchet error, however one prefers to look at it.

    If a roll of these shows up, I'll change my mind.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK...on my list of items to search for on a snowy day......Hey.. it is snowing like crazy... :D Six inches and still coming down....Cheers, RickO

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I set aside every coppery looking 1983 cent I find to weigh. Always comes in normal. Now Ill have to weigh these darn things, too.
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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree, I have a baggie full of "possible" 1983 3.1 grammers.
    Just awaiting the desire to weigh them all........

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is my '82D, waiting to be weighed.

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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭

    Will the weight prove the metal is bronze you think? If so, best of luck!

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2017 6:20PM

    @howards said:
    If this were an intentionally struck variant, I would expect we would have seen a lot more of them by now. So my vote would be that a leftover copper planchet made it into the press along with all of the zinc planchets. So, not a pattern. Either a wrong planchet or a transitional planchet error, however one prefers to look at it.

    If a roll of these shows up, I'll change my mind.

    Isn't it possible that using the leftover copper planchet could have been intentional to get rid of old stock? In which case we would have an intentional low mintage variety?

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2017 6:44PM

    Are you saying the Mint would do something intentional? No-o-o! :D

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wolf359 said:
    Will the weight prove the metal is bronze you think? If so, best of luck!

    The 95% copper planchets weighed 3.1 grams, and the copper-plated zing planchets weigh 2.5 grams, so yes the weight is definitive.

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