Guess the grade on this 1913-S type 1 buffalo EDIT NOW GRADED!

clarkbar04 · January 3, 2017 9:41PM

Just graded MS66 at our host! Trueviews forthcoming.

Just arrived from Austria, and I definitely yodeled a bit when I saw it.

I only needed 1 light to take the obverse pic, reverse is every bit as lustrous but I think due to the shape of it, wouldn't turn out as good.

Updated to post Joe aka crazyhounddog's photos of the coin since they are about 500% better.

mannie gray · January 3, 2017 9:46PM

I'd like to give my opinion on grade, but I really can't tell from the pics if it's a 3 or a 6, or cleaned.
I'd need to see it in hand.

Type2 · January 3, 2017 9:51PM

MS65 if it grades but does it have varnish or oil on it? Hard to tell need to see it in hand to say for Shure.

hchcoin · January 3, 2017 9:59PM

I can't grade Buff's to save my life but that one is chiseled. I've never seen one with the reverse field like that. I am just used to looking at smooth circulated ones.

crazyhounddog · January 3, 2017 10:00PM

I gotta say the Buff is HAMMERED!! I'll take a wild guess. Just going by the strike alone 66. Now, if the luster is there and nary a mark on it, and I can't see any, 67 all day everyday. It's gotta be one a those. I wish I could see it in hand. Send it to me

DancingFire · January 3, 2017 10:31PM

Based on the pics it looks like a MS66

roadrunner · January 3, 2017 10:35PM

The buff's left front shoulder seems a bit whitish and flat....friction? I'll still go MS65 though. Almost too white to be superb as something almost had to be imparted to the coin during that dipping/cleaning. Like Mannie Gray said, could be anything from 63 to 66...or cleaned. No doubt purchased at a low enough price to take the shot.

clarkbar04 · January 4, 2017 12:12AM

@Type2 said:
MS65 if it grades but does it have varnish or oil on it? Hard to tell need to see it in hand to say for Shure.

It might look waxy because it has a matte finish to it, or just because my images are not that good. It looks very comparable to my 1913 type 1 proof. My images also wash out the nice skin it has. I'm gonna send it to Joe for imaging.

(1913 type 1 raw photo, now PCGS PR66)

This is a better representation of the matte.

ricko · January 4, 2017 5:32AM

That is a very impressive Buff.... 66..... Is that a carbon spot by the Indian's eye? Or just some dirt, I do not see it on the OP picture. Cheers, RickO

grip · January 4, 2017 7:57AM

The op is S.

clarkbar04 · January 4, 2017 8:44AM

@ricko said:
That is a very impressive Buff.... 66..... Is that a carbon spot by the Indian's eye? Or just some dirt, I do not see it on the OP picture. Cheers, RickO

Yes sir, 2 different coins, the beauty marked one is a proof.

BIGAL2749 · January 4, 2017 8:51AM

When we think PL we're looking for mirror fields but here w e have matte PL
If it was presented as a branch mint proof, I would believe it

Great coin! San Francisco certainly got that one right.

DollarAfterDollar · January 4, 2017 3:31PM

It's got the MS 67 look. I'd like to see what the graders think.

291fifth · January 4, 2017 3:49PM

Almost looks too good to be true. Only the professional graders will be able to make the final call on that one. Buffalo nickels are one series I am reluctant to grade.

Type2 · January 4, 2017 4:23PM

This is one I think they got wrong will send it back one day.

coindeuce · January 4, 2017 7:14PM

Just opened this thread, and before scrolling through the prior responses, Proof came to mind immediately, while obviously not possible from SF. Tough call on the grade guess, but certainly gem.

MsMorrisine · January 4, 2017 7:26PM

Does the original hub have that much detail?

RB1026 · January 4, 2017 8:04PM

HAMMERED strike for sure! Whenever I see one with this kind of texture and detail I'm always in awe of the original design.

Before reading the posts my gut instinct was MS66 but, of course, you can't grade from pics so it's just my 2 cents.

Very nice score!

georgiacop50 · January 4, 2017 10:00PM

Looks like a weak strike. Maybe a Trial strike? I don't see any fur on the Buff. Blinded by the rawhide.

koynekwest · January 4, 2017 10:16PM

There's only the slightest weakness at the front of the bison's head and a little flatness on the tail next to the rim. Tho luster is notoriously difficult to see accurately in an image, my best guess is a 66.

7Jaguars · January 5, 2017 6:10AM

That is a shockingly LOVELY coin, WOW! The grade would be almost pointless based on the picture as the presentation is superb. The reverse almost looks like a enlarged medallion rendition of the coin - all this on a simple nickel. I like it better at least in the photos than many proofs.