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To clean DCarr coins before grading or not?

jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

I would like to get my collection of DCarr coins graded by ANACS. There are some $1 silver coins what have developed toning on the side closest to the opening of the flip. Should I dip the coins before sending in or just leave them as is?

I've never dipped a coin before, what's the best way to ensure no residue is left and toning is removed such that grade will not be effected.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2017 10:46AM

    Sure...if you want to chance a "details" moniker added to the label insert.

    If it was me, I would let it be.

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  • Dipping is insidious - don't dip nottin' never!

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you don't know how to properly dip coins and have not practiced on worthless coins to have a handle on how it's done properly and the variables involved I would not start with Carr's. Even with experience dipping is always a risk. I doubt the toning is that bad anyway. At worst it's probably net nutral in terms of eye appeal

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dan gave a simple method in an earlier thread. I have the same issue on a few coins.

    mark

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And ANAC's will clean them for you for a somewhat stiff fee.

    mark

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  • 1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2017 11:28AM

    @Justacommeman said:
    Dan gave a simple method in an earlier thread. I have the same issue on a few coins.

    mark

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/951439/dan-carr-haters-not-allowed/p1

  • 1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭

    Dan CAR Wrote If a piece has just started to tone unattractively, I recommend a "dipping" to reverse and stabilize it. Once the toning is dark and/or "thick", it is too late as that would result in cloudiness after dipping. A dipping will also greatly reduce the chances of any "milk spotting" down the road.
    Occasionally, as needed, I use "Tarn-X" silver cleaner (available at Wallgreens or similar). Submerge the coin for 10 seconds or so, thoroughly rinse with water, and then pat dry with a clean soft bath towel (never rub it).

  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really don't mind it

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  • felinfoelfelinfoel Posts: 415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    And ANAC's will clean them for you for a somewhat stiff fee.

    mark

    It's $29, which isn't bad if you're submitting a bunch.

    In my experience: it helps with coins that look a bit dirty or hazy: they really pop afterward. This is especially true for the silver coins (even more so for the proofs).

    However: it does not remove the edge toning (or leaves enough behind so that it's still noticeable).

    I'd share photos, but I'm on the road right now.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought it was much more. Thanks

    Please post pics when you get a chance. TIA

    Mark

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    It's $29, which isn't bad if you're submitting a bunch.

    In my experience: it helps with coins that look a bit dirty or hazy: they really pop afterward. This is especially true for the silver coins (even more so for the proofs).

    However: it does not remove the edge toning (or leaves enough behind so that it's still noticeable).

    >

    $29 for a batch / bunch submission? I have a lot of DC upper obverse rim brown toned items, That sounds like a deal.

    I'm thinking food saver technology. Stick the newly received item, complete in a food saver bag, vacuum seal the bag with the entire DCarr item vacuum packed.

    Current DCarr packaging requires transfer to something else, to prevent the brown toned upper rim obverse edge.

  • 1940coupe1940coupe Posts: 661 ✭✭✭✭

    @felinfoel said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    And ANAC's will clean them for you for a somewhat stiff fee.

    mark

    It's $29, which isn't bad if you're submitting a bunch.

    In my experience: it helps with coins that look a bit dirty or hazy: they really pop afterward. This is especially true for the silver coins (even more so for the proofs).

    However: it does not remove the edge toning (or leaves enough behind so that it's still noticeable).

    I'd share photos, but I'm on the road right now.

    but if it leaves toning on edge thats were DC coins tone from air getting in flip

  • felinfoelfelinfoel Posts: 415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epcjimi1 said:

    $29 for a batch / bunch submission? I have a lot of DC upper obverse rim brown toned items, That sounds like a deal.

    I'm thinking food saver technology. Stick the newly received item, complete in a food saver bag, vacuum seal the bag with the entire DCarr item vacuum packed.

    Current DCarr packaging requires transfer to something else, to prevent the brown toned upper rim obverse edge.

    Yes, per submission. The form says max 20 coins (I just noticed), but I've submitted more than that (and paid $29). Maybe the 20 counts towards coins they preserve.

    anacs.com/contentPages/SubmissionForm.aspx

  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    @felinfoel said:

    @epcjimi1 said:

    $29 for a batch / bunch submission? I have a lot of DC upper obverse rim brown toned items, That sounds like a deal.

    I'm thinking food saver technology. Stick the newly received item, complete in a food saver bag, vacuum seal the bag with the entire DCarr item vacuum packed.

    Current DCarr packaging requires transfer to something else, to prevent the brown toned upper rim obverse edge.

    Yes, per submission. The form says max 20 coins (I just noticed), but I've submitted more than that (and paid $29). Maybe the 20 counts towards coins they preserve.

    anacs.com/contentPages/SubmissionForm.aspx

    I'm in, sending tomorrow.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That would be a bargain

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a good deal.... well worth it if several items are involved... Cheers, RickO

  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have since put my DCarr coins in foodsaver vacuum bags. My delema was mainly how much of an impact would 1/5th edge toning have later down the road? Since all the coins are subject to the toning, does it really matter? Would the dip prevent further deterioration in the slab? The toning is very light but noticeable... I'll probably send in as is and if it's a problem down the road, crack, dip, regrade.

    Thoughts?

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