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Frankenstein Washington. What happened?
SkyMan
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Here's one I got to fill a hole in my toner Washington Dansco. It's pretty neat, and it's obvious that the slices on the obverse rim at 2 to 3 o'clock line up with the stitching on the reverse at 3 to 4 o'clock. I've never seen stitching on a coin before. Does anyone know what is going on? The images are by Bob Campbell, and I think he did an excellent job.
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Was it hit by the mint set crimper?
Are the "stitches" raised, or incuse? Can't quite tell from the image....
I don't have the coin at home right now, but from what I can remember they are raised, here's another pic of them...
U.S. Type Set
If raised, that would imply some sort of damage to the die I would think? The "stitches" would be indentations to the reverse die. Not clear to me what is going on with the obverse....some different, but related, damage I guess?
Added: Also interesting that there appears to be some strike weakness on the opposite side of the coin, though "UNITED", and the "I" in IGWT? Don't know what to make of it, but it might be a clue....
This. Note that the cut on the obverse rim is perpendicular to the cuts in the reverse rim. When the perpendicular lines of the crimper squeeze the two sheets of plastic together the pressure where the lines cross fuses the two sheets of plastic together.
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Was a mint set coin, crimping damage as other have said.
Yep, this and that.
Is this called the football variety?
"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."
So crimping causes raising?
U.S. Type Set
What he said....
If I'm following the poster's line of reasoning, I'm thinking the crimping machine, intended to fuse two thin pieces of mylar/plastic shouldn't have enough force to do what we see here. Also, the crimping pattern I'm used to seeing doesn't look anything like this!
Then, maybe I'm not understanding the crimping process being proposed....
the "raised" part is simply what isn't "crushed"/"crimped" down. i give the odds of 99% for crimping but will leave 1% open to other similar causes for arguments sake.
i agree it isn't the quintessential pattern on the reverse for what few crimped coins i've seen but the obv is spot-on. the rev does match to some extent but is "missing" some of the usual pattern.
it really bugs me how much R and N look like an M when put together, as at the end of the word patter n.
edited to add:
a machine causing crimping is 100% as i've seen the damage to the plastic the coins are stored in when the coin is between the crimper and plastic.
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The stitches aren't actually raised. There is a furrow with raised sides of displaced metal. I am looking at the coin in hand through a 15x loupe.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
I've found a very few of these in change over the years.
Most damaged quarters are in the '73 to '78 mint sets and affect about .8% of mint set production.
Yep... Crimp machine damage.... has been shown here several times over the years... Cheers, RickO