Is this a silver plug on this 1795 FH dollar?
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An ebay seller recently posted this as a silver plug. There may be something there, but the reverse pic doesn't match up to the obverse pic where he says it's at (it's above the center of the coin on the obverse if that's where it is). What do you guys think?
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I don't see it in this picture at least... Here is a good one.... I just don't see it on the good 4 example
That is one of the die varieties that sometimes feature silver plugs, but the plug (if there is one) is not obvious from the pictures. There should be some degree of alignment between the locations of the plug on the obverse and reverse, if it's genuinely a silver plugged dollar.
I have seen a number of lower grade 1795 dollars that appeared to have something resembling a silver plug, but hairline scratches and other handling marks can work together to seem to form the outline of a plug that isn't really there.
Isn't there quite a difference in value for a plugged 1795? It's also a major type that PCGS would normally cite even if not listed on the submission form.
I suppose it's possible that whoever submitted the coin for grading did not see a plug and was perfectly fine with PCGS's non-plug designation. Because if it were otherwise...if the submitter felt there was a plug...well, then, PCGS didn't agree.
So I figure there's a little bit of ghosting going on and it's not plugged. If the current owner really believes it's plugged why wouldn't he escalate the matter with PCGS? Or, more likely, he has and lost and now he's trying to sell to a sap.
Lance.
PCGS grader didn't see it.
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Don't know whether is imagination, but seem to see a circle on the obverse. Nothing on reverse. I love these pieces. MINE is a P55 BB-11, which has obvious plug. I'd post an image but don't know how. If anyone is interested it's on Coinfacts.
EC
I see something on the obverse
This one? Wow! Spectacular.
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To me it appears to have a planchet laminations on the lower part of the bust between neck and hair running up thru the portrait.
I don't see it.
I don't see it either.
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The close-up of the reverse looks like it has a circle in the right spot. The obverse has what looks like a crooked half-circle, almost like scratched in.
I do not see it on the OP coin....perhaps in hand under a 200x microscope..... Cheers, RickO
Very faint, could be.
Maybe I'm ignorant to the matter but wouldn't a plugged coin be a detailed grade? Worth far less? If not I'd like to learn something here
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The type of plug referred to in this thread is a silver plug inserted into the center of the planchet by the US Mint prior to striking so as to bring the planchet up to its proper weight. It would not be a plug to repair a hole made by a post-Mint alteration. These US Mint plugs are awfully scarce and were done only in the earliest years of the US Mint.
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Great deal of history in these pieces, regardless of grade.
EC
That is a beauty. Here is mine with 2 silver plugs.
Ouch!
Had they only known...
A neat artifact of the innocence of non-collectors in the 19th century.
Even TPSs weren't up to speed on plugs until probably the mid-'90s.
My first was a piece sent to me by the late Gary Carlson, while Superior was still getting quality coins. It was in an N55 holder, with an obvious plug. I recall chatting with Gary about my perception of the piece, and was told to send it back to him.
I'd not yet paid for it, but he knew I wanted it.
Three weeks later, it was returned to me in an N58 holder, noted as "silver plug."
I'm certain there would have been dealers, from whom the unpaid piece would not have returned.
Speaks to Gary's honesty and professionalism.
EC
holed and creative, ok, wow, that's a really neat coin!
as far as the OP dollar, A. PCGS didn't think so, and B. if it's that hard to tell, I personally wouldn't pay any premium for it.
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