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Exonumia Collector's let me know what you think about this piece.

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
Here's a blown up pic of one that sold in 2012



Looks a little corroded , sorry about pic, it was a screen capture.



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And this is my piece, more original looking but weak on one side.





Which piece would be more desirable?







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  • ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭✭
    Tough call. I don't like the verdigris on the top one.
  • dadamsdadams Posts: 376 ✭✭✭
    Yours is different than the one shown and exhibits more wear. The question is if one is more scarce than the other.
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  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think the condition makes a big difference for most token collectors. I think yours is more desirable because of the Moise Klinkner Co. mark. Here is an interesting link Moise-Klinkner product catalog
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would think most would prefer the first piece.

    Cool item.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The top one looks a bit wavy (bent) in addition to being corroded.
    It also has some stray impressions on it like the faint star above the "U" in QUART.
    The second variety has no beaded border but does have a maker's mark as previously noted.
    Which type is scarcer ?
    If both have equal rarity, I would lean towards the second one since it isn't bent or corroded.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the second one... seems to be a different metal - may not be - but seems so. Has more 'character'...Cheers, RickO
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: dadams
    Yours is different than the one shown and exhibits more wear. The question is if one is more scarce than the other.


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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The second token shows the character of use, in addition to the additional info. I agree with Dan the first token appears bent, possibly from the star strike. Again, I agree in regards to the verdigris, I always stay away.

    I would truly select the second token.

    Jim

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I suspect that the beaded border obverse / beaded-rope border reverse piece is far more scarce than yours. And condition is no less critical to dairy token collectors than it is to any other collecting specialty. Probably should get a copy of this to get some basic information:

    CATALOG OF DAIRY OR MILK TOKENS and RELATED EXONUMIA, Reiter. Known dairy tokens of the world. A complete listing of all dairy tokens in the collection of Melvin Reiter, with sections on US, Canadian and world, known and unknown mavericks, cardboard, advertising, wooden nickels and encased coins. With references to other listings. Large format, over 4500 listings. Hard-Bound 2002, 1204p.

    The top piece with a rarity ranking of R10 would make it uniquely extant or nearly so.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got milk ?
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: coindeuce

    I suspect that the beaded border obverse / beaded-rope border reverse piece is far more scarce than yours. And condition is no less critical to dairy token collectors than it is to any other collecting specialty. Probably should get a copy of this to get some basic information:

    CATALOG OF DAIRY OR MILK TOKENS and RELATED EXONUMIA, Reiter. Known dairy tokens of the world. A complete listing of all dairy tokens in the collection of Melvin Reiter, with sections on US, Canadian and world, known and unknown mavericks, cardboard, advertising, wooden nickels and encased coins. With references to other listings. Large format, over 4500 listings. Hard-Bound 2002, 1204p.

    The top piece with a rarity ranking of R10 would make it uniquely extant or nearly so.






    Just out of curiosity why do you expect the other to be scarcer. Did you find mine anywhere?

    Maybe it is Maybe it isn't.

    I've been told that before on a lot of things only for the opposite to be true.

    Just my little rant.

    I realized I compared two different ones after putting it up. But my main question was still the same.

    Now I go and try to find it.

    PS if I bought a book for everything I want to look up I'd have no money for anything but books.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "PS if I bought a book for everything I want to look up I'd have no money for anything but books."



    There's this organization known as the American Numismatic Association, which has the largest numismatic library in the world. About 99% of the reference books are available for loan on the cost of mailing, if one is a dues paid member. Are you ?



    Paul Cunningham has a copy of Reiter for $35. Not a bad investment for researching a token that you suspect is worth hundreds.



    This copy of Reiter sold for $20 last year.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    "I don't think the condition makes a big difference for most token collectors"

    That made me smile.

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