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BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I bought something that arrived far better then expected and I'm thrilled. During the negotiation the seller and I had been 6% apart on what she really wanted. I offered up everything I had in my PayPal account and she accepted even taking my last 2 cents I mentioned in jest if it would make a difference. Now here and my account flush again I'm considering sending the seller the additional amount she really wanted. So would you out of the goodness of your heart pay more post deal?
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    panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You will pay yourself back the first time you look in the mirror.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: panexpoguy

    You will pay yourself back the first time you look in the mirror.




    Thanks so true! image



    It's been on my mind since it arrived yesterday and sending the payment is on my list of things to do this morning.



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    scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭✭
    You both agreed on a price and completed the transaction.

    If I was thinking strategically toward a seller who I hoped to establish a long relationship with and knew they had other good material, I'd think about a little extra as a thank you.
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nah. You'll just make them wonder why you're paying more and think they got ripped off
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    PaleElfPaleElf Posts: 990 ✭✭✭
    From a collector selling a coin to upgrade or because they needed the cash... yes.

    From a dealer... no.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    You took the risk. What if it would have arrived way worse? Would you get money back?
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: tradedollarnut

    Nah. You'll just make them wonder why you're paying more and think they got ripped off




    This.



    You might be able to help her in another way?



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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Budget constraints prevent me from paying more, post deal. I cannot purchase what I cannot afford in the first place, unless there's a profit to be made. But this is from a "dealer's perspective", not a collector. I'm speaking to coins. As a collector, yes , of course I would pay more if I made a "cut to the bone" deal and really liked it upon receipt. Most assuredly.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From a collector and more likely just a one time deal with no follow ups.



    I did take a risk as I couldn't fully see what I was buying.



    The number one negotiation practice is knowing when to just walk away.



    So I wasn't eager to offer any more then I did.



    Now here on a bad day it's worth nearly 3 times what I paid wholesale.



    At the end of the day we all have to sleep with ourselves.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think if you made a good deal, you did great. It's a "You Suck" situation, mate.

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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IF you do this you must : Never attempt to make lower offers again. Repay ALL the other sellers you have lowballed over the years. If you don't want to do those things, forget the thought and move on.
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    erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭
    To me it would depend on the seller.

    Collector or inheritor who is just trying to raise funds (whether for emergency or estate). Yeah, I probably would.

    One off dealer who makes a business of buying and selling. Nah.

    Dealer who I have long, quality relationship with? I'd probably at least reach out and let them know.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    How much is the 6% off dollar wise by the way?
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: tradedollarnut
    Nah. You'll just make them wonder why you're paying more and think they got ripped off


    Exactly
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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Return the item and neg the seller.

    No?

    Hmm
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    goldengolden Posts: 10,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313

    You took the risk. What if it would have arrived way worse? Would you get money back?


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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    How much is the 6% off dollar wise by the way?




    Roughly about a filet mignon, dessert, couple drinks, & a nice tip image

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    YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You offered. She agreed. NO
    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
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    OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Broadstruck

    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    How much is the 6% off dollar wise by the way?




    Roughly about a filet mignon, dessert, couple drinks, & a nice tip image





    At the Sizzler? or at Ruth Chris's?



    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Every deal won't work out even. So long as both parties profit I'm not especially concerned who made out better. Anytime I get more than I expect or pay less than full value I'll just raise my bids and pay more for everything from that seller until we're even again. Most people prefer repeat business and relationships more than getting full price out of everything they offer anyway.



    Just don't let yourself get too far ahead or behind with someone because you might never be able to even out.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not, but I would be more likely to make another purchase from the dealer if they didn't come off the price of the next deal as much as I'd like.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, You took the risk and it would only raise suspicions.



    If you really feel compelled, then buy something from her again and pay her the full asking price or closer to retail.



    This one's a done deal imho.

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think that if you think you should do it, you should do it. you'll feel better.
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan
    No, You took the risk and it would only raise suspicions.

    If you really feel compelled, then buy something from her again and pay her the full asking price or closer to retail.

    This one's a done deal imho.


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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Go with your gut. Life is short and goodwill toward others is balm for the soul.
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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: tradedollarnut

    Nah. You'll just make them wonder why you're paying more and think they got ripped off




    This.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: tradedollarnut
    Nah. You'll just make them wonder why you're paying more and think they got ripped off


    +1
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, if she wanted more, she would not have accepted what you had to offer...including your last two cents.
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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say pay it forward, give some collector a deal on something you sell in the future....Add to the good Karma of the planet.
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So would you out of the goodness of your heart pay more post deal?

    You were thrilled with your purchase.Why not if you have the ability to pay a bit more,more like the amount the seller was asking for?

    It's called spreading goodwill.Not everyone is out to rip others.Send that positive energy message whenever you can.

    Life is short and goodwill toward others is balm for the soul.

    I agree with this.

    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."

    Dwight D. Eisenhower
    Speech in Washington, 16 Apr. 1953, in Public Papers of Presidents 1953 (1960) p. 182

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The goodness of the heart is a "love offering". It goes beyond the deal regardless of what another thinks. It's at the heart of man. EOM

    ``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sent the payment along with a nice note showing appreciation well over an hour ago.



    I feel good about having done it now, already thought about it yesterday, and doubt I'll feel any different a few years down the road.



    I don't surf the web for things to flip just items for me.



    I'm not seeing much these days I want or especially to pay up for, however this is something I would have handsomely had I seen it in hand.



    When the day comes to sell I'll still do well even with the additional nominal percentage now paid.



    Felling warm & fuzzy right now and not the slightest bit foolish.



    However you can all weigh my decision any way you want?



    Thanks! image



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    oldlinecoinsoldlinecoins Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    Definitely not. It might make you feel good but it will probably not make them feel good. It will work for the seller's benefit in the future naturally when you choose to do more business with them
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Broadstruck

    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    How much is the 6% off dollar wise by the way?




    Roughly about a filet mignon, dessert, couple drinks, & a nice tip image





    I see that the resident expert is looking to pass judgement on you too.



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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: coindeuce

    Originally posted by: Broadstruck

    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    How much is the 6% off dollar wise by the way?




    Roughly about a filet mignon, dessert, couple drinks, & a nice tip image





    I see that the resident expert is looking to pass judgement on you too.







    Well prior to doing so I should mention that I gave her exactly what she wanted and not a penny more.



    As I rounded my payment off since she previously took my last 2 cents image

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    nagsnags Posts: 912 ✭✭✭✭
    Is it graded? Is she knowledgeable on the subject? If it was a somewhat level playing field and a graded coin than no. If it was ungraded and she grossly under graded the coin than sure.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Broadstruck

    I bought something that arrived far better then expected and I'm thrilled. During the negotiation the seller and I had been 6% apart on what she really wanted. I offered up everything I had in my PayPal account and she accepted even taking my last 2 cents I mentioned in jest if it would make a difference. Now here and my account flush again I'm considering sending the seller the additional amount she really wanted. So would you out of the goodness of your heart pay more post deal?






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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's see what all the hub-bub is about!
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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭




    Roughly about a filet mignon, dessert, couple drinks, & a nice tip image





    At the Sizzler? or at Ruth Chris's?







    image

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    dibdib Posts: 311 ✭
    The real question is, how would you respond to the seller if she then asked you how much the coin was really worth? image
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with TDN on this one. Your thread indicates that your heart is in the right place, but if you feel you simply must do something, send her an ounce of silver or a Morgan slick. Just paying more will make her suspicious.



    No good deed goes unpunished.
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    jedmjedm Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree that you did good. If we don't do what makes us feel good (as long as it's not at the expense of another) we will be dependent on others for that. I also liked the recommendation to "pay it forward" mentioned by thebigeng and the karma idea. But you have already made your decision and should be pleased with it.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without knowing the coin, the condition or anything associated with the transaction, it seems tough to play Monday morning QB or be the moral compass in connection with EBay transactions. One approach would be to just look for other items offered by the Same seller and find something to purchase.

    One thing that I have done in buying coins is to select coins that I Like that are priced fairly and buy them. While some will say this makes me a chump, I think it demonstrates a sense of fairness that leads to the ability to strike a deal on those coins where the difference is the 6 percent described in this thread

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Follow your conscience... you know best the situation ... Cheers, RickO
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    RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭✭
    After reading the responses in this thread, I have a better understanding now why I've never been financially successful in numismatics image I guess I'm just an idiot collector who believes in the tenet "do unto others as you would have done to you". You can't put a price on that.



    Broadstruck, I commend you for a kind gesture that I believe will pay you back tenfold. The very fact that you thought to do such a kind thing in the first place speaks volumes about your character. I've done similar things in the past and ALWAYS have felt that I came out way ahead in the deal in ways that $$ can't buy. Good for you! image
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    panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I imagine that you feel better today than you would have had you taken that amount of money and bought yourself a steak dinner last night. Bryce is right, no good deed goes unpunished. But if you are not willing to pay a price for who you want to be, then you will pay another price for being who you are.
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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: panexpoguy

    But if you are not willing to pay a price for who you want to be, then you will pay another price for being who you are.




    Profound comment!
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks as I got a really nice email from the seller early this morning after I first confused then shocked her with a unexpected surprise image



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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The real question is, how would you respond to the seller if she then asked you how much the coin was really worth?

    "To me,the coin is worth every penny that you were asking for.i'm delighted with my purchase.Thank you for working with me to help build my collection."

    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."

    Dwight D. Eisenhower
    Speech in Washington, 16 Apr. 1953, in Public Papers of Presidents 1953 (1960) p. 182

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