1928-s Peace. Retained lamination or what?

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Weiss
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Beneath Liberty's chin, then also below her neck around De Franscici's initials and up to her lower hair strands.

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  • FredWeinberg
    FredWeinberg Posts: 6,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's not a lamination or die cracks, imo.



    It appears to be a liquid stain or ? that dried up.



    I've seen that effect on other silver coins.



    PMS - Post Minting Staining
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  • Weiss
    Weiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg
    It's not a lamination or die cracks, imo.

    It appears to be a liquid stain or ? that dried up.

    I've seen that effect on other silver coins.

    PMS - Post Minting Staining


    That was embarrassing image I thought "Oh crap, Fred Weinberg commented and he thinks it's a stain".

    So I rinsed it under tap water, then dunked it in acetone...

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  • Wabbit2313
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    Did you weigh it to see if it's real?
  • WoodenJefferson
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    ...and, did the anomaly come off?
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  • FredWeinberg
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    If that area is still there after the acetone,

    it could still be a stain or some type.



    I just don't see it as die cracks or laminations.
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  • oih82w8
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    It looks raised at the edges to me...possibly glue or some other non-metallic adherent?
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  • Weiss
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    Hmm. 26.7 grams, I have no doubt it's real. Acetone and water didn't touch the bulges. They sure look like excess metal to me under magnification.
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  • Broadstruck
    Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg



    PMS - Post Minting Staining




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  • ricko
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    Why not send it to Fred? He would be able to study it in hand... Cheers, RickO
  • CommemKing
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    The whole coin looks suspicious. In any case I would not want it.
  • TwoKopeiki
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    Looks raised to me, which would either imply die fractures (very unlikely on a genuine die) or planchet lamination (more likely). You're sure it's not counterfeit?
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  • Weiss
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    Pretty confident it's real. More inclined to believe it's a foreign substance if a legit mint something-or-other is not likely.

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    --Severian the Lame
  • FredWeinberg
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    The coin is genuine, as far as I'm concerned.



    That's not the issue.
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  • Insider2
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    Fred, This may be a planchet issue. Note how the "breaks" in the surface run thru the "1" & "OD."
  • FredWeinberg
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    Although the "D" --might-- --might-- be a small lamination,

    after looking at all the other bag marks, etc. on the coin

    I lean towards those areas ( 1, OD,) as marks, not laminations.

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  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    This 28 Peace has the throat feature, although worn, crappy pic, not mine, was just looking around.

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