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Better quality counterfeit than most

zas107zas107 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭
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Has luster and peripheral toning.

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    PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
    "1875 US trade Ginza people take flowers sliver coin."

    Thank You for giving me my first LOL of the day!
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems to be. 15 bids to now?
    My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hilarious title! It's a scary-good fake, though. The obverse stars are a little off. The star to the left of Liberty's head is a little too large, for example. On the reverse, the positions of the arrow feathers and leaves with respect to the numerals "900" are not quite right. PCGS people take flowers avoid eBay raw Trade dollar and raw gold too purchase.
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    ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I somehow like the part that says...



    Items shipped from Netherlands.

    Project is original.

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does the eye look strangeimage
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    DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    Reported
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I asked him who makes his counterfeits because the workmanship is better than Alibaba's. Maybe he will be flattered and respond.



    Funny that all of his counterfeits are made of "sliver."
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    WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you've seem more than two real trade dollars in your life that should be enough. The whole thing is off. Prob not even toning but a little brown airbrush paint to try to throw you off.
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    silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,944 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no comment

    https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipOnSKhNCHxkfJkKJ9rIMTZg9A7dzPlqv0bcR88x

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Design is off, but that luster and tone is definitely a notch above.
    Watch your confirmation bias, folks. If you pat yourself on the back for recognizing this one because of obvious flaws, you might be less wary of the next one with less obvious flaws.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has the look of a fantasy restrike....could be legit.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Better quality counterfeit than most




    no kiddin'



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    Has the look of a fantasy restrike....could be legit.




    how does it being a fantasy piece make it legit?

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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    "Funny that all of his counterfeits are made of "sliver."



    Yeah, just what is 'sliver', anyway?



    Not exactly my series, but look at the gown lines across the body. They just scream bogus. There is no need to study the minutia - it is an obvious fake.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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    PaleElfPaleElf Posts: 990 ✭✭✭
    I don't even look at coins from foreign sellers on eBay anymore.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, that one hasn't gotten the usual Chinese toning that makes it appear to be a problem coin, although, of course, it has the ultimate problem. It's a fake.

    It is scary though that they might be going for this look instead of the other toned appearance. The die work is off, but we don't to give them any pointers on the problems.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Luster looks like it's from an ASE. Blasteroni.



    Except for the "Raging Bull" nose on Miss Liberty, not that bad a fake.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Didn't they invent chops because of this problem, and then follow that with slabs. image



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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    how does a zero feedback seller get 15 bids? especially on a fake
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Cougar1978

    how does a zero feedback seller get 15 bids? especially on a fake






    Good question home list, work bid maybe?

    Or maybe a friends & family plan.

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    My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,778 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Cougar1978
    how does a zero feedback seller get 15 bids? especially on a fake


    its nice to have some fiends with you and even a few friends to help out.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seller's ebay listings



    Several other dozen fakes as well from 19th/early 20th century British, Chinese, Japanese, etc. Covering lots of bases.
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Always look at the Eagle's eye. It is not ever right and really wrong on this one.

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